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General Conversation 10: A Madea Halloween
*Ambulance pulls up*
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| May 16, 2018, 5:48 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Converse by all means but please no talk of ****trucks.

What do you have against mail trucks, Keith?
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| May 16, 2018, 6:05 pm
What about semitrucks??
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| May 16, 2018, 6:31 pm
Ya know, I think he means firetru- *sees Goldman's frown* ...Firetruck. *and continues on knowing that Goldman alwys frowns*
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| May 16, 2018, 6:58 pm
So quiet...
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| May 16, 2018, 8:54 pm
MEUSLIXTENSTEIN ATTACKS A1!!!

too soon? Or are all of you too late?! HA!

Just mail me my prize and we can all go back to our regularly scheduled programs. You all did well but were obviously no match. No, no. Please hold your applause. It was my honor to defeat all of you with that devastating, preemptive strike. Sorry Ron, you happened to be where we stuck the tube for this planet's enema.

I want to thank the DAS, their commitment and steadfast work here was matched only by VAk's chest hair. All you Generals were a tough lot but we here in Meuslixtenstein, especially Todd, but not so much his brother Todd, thank you all for playing and wish you all the best in your future endeavors.

Thanks for playing!

Yup, the game is over and you can all go home. Even though you are all probably home now as you are reading this on your divan. Still, you can all relax and take it easy this Friday as there is no attack window.

Yes, you heard it here first. THERE IS NO ATTACK WINDOW THIS FRIDAY. It's been called off.

The attack window has been cancelled.

The attack window has been cancelled.

The attack window has been cancelled.


Goodnight Tulsa, Oklahoma wherever you are!
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| May 17, 2018, 1:17 am
I'll have what he's having.
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| May 17, 2018, 3:55 am
 Group admin 
Quoting matt rowntRee

You know something, matt? You're special. After all, I don't take off my shirt in front of every random bloke.

And come on, assuming everyone lives in Tulsa is SUCH a crass overgeneralization.
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| May 17, 2018, 8:42 am
Huh, interesting note on the top of all MOC Pages... pages. New servers being installed next wednesday night? Did they find a way to get even cheaper servers? ;) Or is there a stability boost somehow being gifted from on high?
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| May 17, 2018, 11:15 am
Quoting Doug Hughes
Huh, interesting note on the top of all MOC Pages... pages. New servers being installed next wednesday night? Did they find a way to get even cheaper servers? ;) Or is there a stability boost somehow being gifted from on high?

Holy freaking moly! Is Sean actually doing something?! O.o
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| May 17, 2018, 11:32 am
I wouldn't read too much into the new server announcement. It could just be that the host has informed Sean that the server (or even just the hard drive) has been scheduled for routine replacement due to age. I'm certainly not expecting to see any improvements or bug fixes.
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| May 17, 2018, 11:52 am
At least he has the desency not to do it during our AW :)
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| May 17, 2018, 12:12 pm
Quoting Doug Hughes
Huh, interesting note on the top of all MOC Pages... pages. New servers being installed next wednesday night? Did they find a way to get even cheaper servers? ;) Or is there a stability boost somehow being gifted from on high?

Or Kenny could be pulling the plug.
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| May 17, 2018, 12:25 pm
Quoting Michiel Norp
At least he has the desency not to do it during our AW :)

Knowing MOCpages, it'd crash on Friday anyway.
It's overdue for one of those.
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| May 17, 2018, 3:15 pm
Quoting Digital Dreams
I wouldn't read too much into the new server announcement. It could just be that the host has informed Sean that the server (or even just the hard drive) has been scheduled for routine replacement due to age. I'm certainly not expecting to see any improvements or bug fixes.

Oh,I most certainly WILL read too much into the announcement! Sean is finally fixing everything! EVERYTHING!!! It's the ONLY possible reason for announcing that. ONLY reason! And I think he'll serve punch and pie to all of us in a super duper soiree thanking each of us for our patience. Oh,it's true! Sean has been so awesomely reliable, why wouldn't he hesitate?! Thank you Sean, you're our hero!

Or what you said.
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| May 17, 2018, 3:20 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
Oh,I most certainly WILL read too much into the announcement! Sean is finally fixing everything! EVERYTHING!!! It's the ONLY possible reason for announcing that. ONLY reason! And I think he'll serve punch and pie to all of us in a super duper soiree thanking each of us for our patience. Oh,it's true! Sean has been so awesomely reliable, why wouldn't he hesitate?! Thank you Sean, you're our hero!

Or what you said.

Kenny definitely didn't delete every comment about fixing the site on his latest creation... nooooo
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| May 17, 2018, 3:23 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee



Goodnight Tulsa, Oklahoma wherever you are!

https://youtu.be/O6MbPWzIFUk
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| May 17, 2018, 3:32 pm
Quoting Ron L. Mitchell
https://youtu.be/O6MbPWzIFUk

I may have lost several IQ points trying to listen to that.
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| May 17, 2018, 3:42 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
I may have lost several IQ points trying to listen to that.

Youve lost more points from drinking ever clear...
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| May 17, 2018, 3:44 pm
Morning all!

Just wanted to thank you all for your kind words earlier, it really helped me out. However, I'm back now!

And looks like I'm just in time to see Sean installing some new servers! I reckon I'm gonna follow Matt's outlook here.

Everything's going to be fixed! No more worries about creating our own website, because this one'll have no more problems ever!

What do you mean I'm over-analyzing this?

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| May 17, 2018, 5:34 pm
The site hasnít crashed in a couple of weeks, clearly something needs to be fixed.
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| May 17, 2018, 6:49 pm
 Group admin 
I'm just amused that the notification loads first. Apparently someone on the back-end still remembers how HTML display priority works...
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| May 17, 2018, 11:50 pm
Quoting Ron L. Mitchell
Youve lost more points from drinking ever clear...

...and playing a war game in Antarctica.
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| May 18, 2018, 12:20 am
Quoting VAkkron ô
I'm just amused that the notification loads first. Apparently someone on the back-end still remembers how HTML display priority works...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y
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| May 18, 2018, 12:27 am
I'm just happy the site hasn't crashed this week. Of course now that I've said that, we'll have another Sunday attack window! Agggh. X-D
Permalink
| May 18, 2018, 1:35 am
Quoting Kingdomview Bricks


Quoting Master Shifu Leo J


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgnCiV31tYg


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| May 18, 2018, 11:32 am
Aaaand my new port got knocked off the homepage. Typical...

http://www.moc-pages.com/moc.php/447365

Mind giving it some attention? :3
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| May 18, 2018, 2:13 pm
FIRETRUCKS!!!
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| May 18, 2018, 3:44 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
FIRETRUCKS!!!


Bonk. Thud. Smash.
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| May 18, 2018, 3:48 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
FIRETRUCKS!!!

Weeeeewwwoooooweeeeewoooo
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| May 18, 2018, 3:48 pm
Quoting P. Andrei

Bonk. Thud. Smash.

Isn't it Bonk smash thud?
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| May 18, 2018, 3:48 pm
Quoting General Gunn ~
Isn't it Bonk smash thud?


Possibly, my memory is close to nonexistent.
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| May 18, 2018, 3:49 pm
Navarre, are you nuts? xD
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| May 18, 2018, 3:57 pm
ONE too slow, Shifu!! Man that has got to hurt. Welcome me back!
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| May 18, 2018, 3:57 pm
Yes, I'm a gutsy madman, and in good company here on F xD !
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| May 18, 2018, 3:58 pm
Quoting W Navarre
ONE too slow, Shifu!! Man that has got to hurt. Welcome me back!

You know, you have said that you were plotting against him before you got killed the first time. why'd you go back? xD
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| May 18, 2018, 3:58 pm
Holy freaking moly, I almost died.

Fumbled and opened the comment in a new page. xD
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| May 18, 2018, 3:59 pm
Does E9 border with E6 through a sea zone?
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| May 18, 2018, 4:05 pm
Quoting General Gunn ~
Does E9 border with E6 through a sea zone?

Yeah, that seems like a mistake on Topsy's part to me. Don't know if I'm missing something maybe though.
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| May 18, 2018, 4:08 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting W Navarre
Yes, I'm a gutsy madman, and in good company here of F xD !

Truly, the DAS salutes your bravery and fortitude!
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| May 18, 2018, 4:08 pm
Quoting W Navarre
Yes, I'm a gutsy madman, and in good company here on F xD !

Well hello there! Welcome back to our beautiful shores!
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| May 18, 2018, 4:12 pm
Quoting Pico van Grootveld
LLL attacks E8

*sigh* Another day, another Doug.
Permalink
| May 18, 2018, 4:12 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
What an odd turn of events...

Indeed.
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| May 18, 2018, 4:40 pm
The Arctic is no longer safe...
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| May 18, 2018, 4:40 pm
Quoting Seaman SPb
The Arctic is no longer safe...

Currently you are near invincible. You just a little strong hold there xD
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| May 18, 2018, 4:42 pm
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Quoting Seaman SPb
The Arctic is no longer safe...

Wolves need a lot of red meat and they don't mind the cold.
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| May 18, 2018, 4:44 pm
Quoting General Gunn ~
Currently you are near invincible. You just a little strong hold there xD

Island B was apparently conceived as a tidbit for the final stages of the game... I messed up the whole idea. )))
The next game (DA4) is to ban the landing in Antarctica on the starting AW. This is logical is a hard to reach region and it needs to reach the established state.
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| May 18, 2018, 4:48 pm
There is still a Kaiju we can summon. Sea monster against wolf....
Quoting Seaman SPb
The Arctic is no longer safe...


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| May 18, 2018, 5:23 pm
Dadgum! By a hair, General Rowntree, by a hair. Now General Navarre is knocking by the back door...
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| May 18, 2018, 5:31 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Aaaand my new port got knocked off the homepage. Typical...

http://www.moc-pages.com/moc.php/447365

Mind giving it some attention? :3

Anyone? :P
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| May 18, 2018, 5:43 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Anyone? :P

I gave it some attention. XD

My port needs attention, too. :)
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| May 18, 2018, 7:01 pm
Quoting Master Shifu Leo J
I gave it some attention. XD

My port needs attention, too. :)

Been there done that :P
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| May 18, 2018, 7:06 pm
Quoting General Gunn ~
Been there done that :P

Thanks, Sir! Much appreciated.
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| May 18, 2018, 7:16 pm
Quoting Master Shifu Leo J
Thanks, Sir! Much appreciated.

I dont know if you have, but would you mind checking out my latest builds? :D
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| May 18, 2018, 7:19 pm
Quoting General Gunn ~
I dont know if you have, but would you mind checking out my latest builds? :D

Done!
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| May 18, 2018, 7:28 pm
Quoting Master Shifu Leo J
Dadgum! By a hair, General Rowntree, by a hair. Now General Navarre is knocking by the back door...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJINv6ffO00

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| May 18, 2018, 8:08 pm
Quoting W Navarre
Yes, I'm a gutsy madman, and in good company here on F xD !

F9? I hope you dug two graves. ;)
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| May 18, 2018, 8:24 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
F9? I hope you dug two graves. ;)

Or maybe I can get two for the price of one? ;)
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| May 18, 2018, 8:34 pm
Quoting W Navarre
Or maybe I can get two for the price of one? ;)

Don't read much Confucius, do you?
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| May 18, 2018, 8:43 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
Don't read much Confucius, do you?

Eh, I may be bilingual but I don't know Chinese. Heard he was a little confusing anyways. Or maybe he was confused. Or maybe I am.
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| May 18, 2018, 9:41 pm
Quoting P. Andrei

Andrei, this has escalated so much itís just silly.

Weíve successfully changed this from a game of ďwho builds better and draws more attentionĒ to ďwho can recruit the most people to like their buildsĒ

Itís utterly ridiculous. And Iím having serious thoughts about just quitting. Not because I could lose. I couldnít care less. But the game has been ruined.
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| May 18, 2018, 10:38 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Andrei, this has escalated so much itís just silly.

Weíve successfully changed this from a game of ďwho builds better and draws more attentionĒ to ďwho can recruit the most people to like their buildsĒ

Itís utterly ridiculous. And Iím having serious thoughts about just quitting. Not because I could lose. I couldnít care less. But the game has been ruined.

The honor has kinda been lost. We are both seeing how many people we can recruit. We cant deny it, and you would have to be blind to not see it. Daniel and Andrei both jump 70+ MILPO and become the most powerful players? Truly the strongest player should be Zach. Now I havent been watching as closely on everyone else but it seems Me, Daniel, Andrei, and Tom have stooped so low its laughable.
Just a few thoughts.

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| May 18, 2018, 10:44 pm
Please note that me and Daniel are not angry at the builders themselves, but disappointed at the fact the game has devolved to this level
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| May 18, 2018, 10:48 pm
Quoting General Gunn ~
Please note that me and Daniel are not angry at the builders themselves, but disappointed at the fact the game has devolved to this level

Pretty sure this happened last time as well. It's not uncommon for some fudging to happen in a popularity contest.
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| May 18, 2018, 10:52 pm
Quoting Sam Sanister
Pretty sure this happened last time as well. It's not uncommon for some fudging to happen in a popularity contest.

Oh... how fun.
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| May 18, 2018, 10:54 pm
Quoting Daniel H.

Pardon my ignorance; I haven't been following developments on D closely. I'm curious: what exactly has devolved? I haven't seen Andrei badgering people for likes in these threads. Looking for allies and agreeing to like allies' builds has been the norm since day 1. It's always been an alliance building game as much as a building contest. So what are you referring to?
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| May 18, 2018, 11:31 pm
Quoting General Gunn ~
The honor has kinda been lost.

You have me wondering: what precisely do you mean by "honor"? I had the impression that you espoused a completely amoral style of play.
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| May 18, 2018, 11:36 pm
Quoting Kingdomview Bricks
Pardon my ignorance; I haven't been following developments on D closely. I'm curious: what exactly has devolved? I haven't seen Andrei badgering people for likes in these threads. Looking for allies and agreeing to like allies' builds has been the norm since day 1. It's always been an alliance building game as much as a building contest. So what are you referring to?

Not in here, but weíve both been gathering likes. So much so that weíve each gained around 100 MILPO. Itís outrageous. And never ending.
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| May 18, 2018, 11:38 pm
And not from allies, but just by reaching out to other builders.
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| May 18, 2018, 11:38 pm
Quoting Kingdomview Bricks
You have me wondering: what precisely do you mean by "honor"? I had the impression that you espoused a completely amoral style of play.

I like to play dirty, but to a point. I like to stay well within the rules of games, this is allowed technically but not very sportsman like
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| May 18, 2018, 11:49 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Not in here, but weíve both been gathering likes. So much so that weíve each gained around 100 MILPO. Itís outrageous. And never ending.

Well, I guess I see what you mean. For better or worse though, itís how this game is played. Youíve just been doing it better than most.
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| May 19, 2018, 12:02 am
Quoting Kingdomview Bricks
Well, I guess I see what you mean. For better or worse though, itís how this game is played. Youíve just been doing it better than most.

No offense in me saying this but that is a s!ckening outlook upon this. xD
It bothers me that this is how its done. :/
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| May 19, 2018, 12:04 am
Quoting General Gunn ~
I like to play dirty, but to a point. I like to stay well within the rules of games, this is allowed technically but not very sportsman like

Well, OK. Personally, I would consider stringing along and then betraying a trapped opponent for no material benefit to be rather dirtier play than asking people for likes, but that may just be me.
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| May 19, 2018, 12:06 am
Quoting Kingdomview Bricks
Well, OK. Personally, I would consider stringing along and then betraying a trapped opponent for no material benefit to be rather dirtier play than asking people for likes, but that may just be me.

Well at any time he coould have just say "You are lying!" And stopped listening to me. But really, Im surprised he kept on with our "allince" after the AW and I ignored the attack and then never talked in the group again. And then next AW he attacked again and thought id help xd
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| May 19, 2018, 12:11 am
Quoting Kingdomview Bricks
Well, OK. Personally, I would consider stringing along and then betraying a trapped opponent for no material benefit to be rather dirtier play than asking people for likes, but that may just be me.

But, yeah, betrayal is pretty dirty but IMO not as bad. Because to be able to betray you should have to rightfully earn the power to do so.
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| May 19, 2018, 12:11 am
Quoting General Gunn ~
It bothers me that this is how its done. :/

A fair position.

Well, this has been a most interesting disscusion. Good night all!
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| May 19, 2018, 12:15 am
There's nothing wrong with reaching out to builders in an attempt to get more likes, as long as you're not badgering them.
Socializing is a part of MOCpages, and this game.

Adding 20 people to your favorite builders list in one day does not guarantee they'll check out your stuff; gotta cast a wide net because of that.


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| May 19, 2018, 12:23 am
Quoting Kingdomview Bricks
A fair position.

Well, this has been a most interesting disscusion. Good night all!

'Night Kingdomview, good attack today. Kudos!
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| May 19, 2018, 12:32 am
Quoting DanGunn ~


Just stop it. You're doing it over and over again. You have no problem using every trick you can think of, using any tool you have, manipulating smaller players into dying for you, then whenever something doesn't work according to your plan, you're here complaining about it. Every single time.

(Honor? Really?)
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| May 19, 2018, 1:09 am
Quoting Daniel H.
Not in here, but weíve both been gathering likes. So much so that weíve each gained around 100 MILPO. Itís outrageous. And never ending.

That's cool! )) The site wakes up. Keep it up. ))
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| May 19, 2018, 1:11 am
Quoting P. Andrei

Just stop it. You're doing it over and over again. You have no problem using every trick you can think of, using any tool you have, manipulating smaller players into dying for you, then whenever something doesn't work according to your plan, you're here complaining about it. Every single time.

(Honor? Really?)

+100

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| May 19, 2018, 1:15 am
Quoting P. Andrei

Just stop it. You're doing it over and over again. You have no problem using every trick you can think of, using any tool you have, manipulating smaller players into dying for you, then whenever something doesn't work according to your plan, you're here complaining about it. Every single time.

(Honor? Really?)

...I never said I wasnít doing it. Iím simply sad at how far itís escalated.

I never said anything about honor. Manipulating people into dying for me? Really? Youíre saying that if Black_Wind has joined you, helped take us down, you wouldnít have then turned around and crushed her in return? Thatís laughable.

Iím sorry. I did not mean to start an argument. I was simply stating my disdaine for the way this is going. My apologies.
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| May 19, 2018, 1:15 am
And then there's Sweigart, who's gotten his over 200 MILPO just by posting quality builds and socializing. :)
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| May 19, 2018, 1:20 am
Quoting Sam Sanister
And then there's Sweigart, who's gotten his over 200 MILPO just by posting quality builds and socializing. :)

Exactly! Iím ashamed that Iíve surpassed him in MILPO.
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| May 19, 2018, 1:20 am
Quoting Daniel H.
...I never said I wasnít doing it. Iím simply sad at how far itís escalated.

I never said anything about honor. Manipulating people into dying for me? Really? Youíre saying that if Black_Wind has joined you, helped take us down, you wouldnít have then turned around and crushed her in return? Thatís laughable.

Iím sorry. I did not mean to start an argument. I was simply stating my disdaine for the way this is going. My apologies.


I'm not asking for explanation. I have no problem with the way you're playing, I don't think you've seen me complain, whether I liked it or not.

But you're acting as if we're doing something different than we were. We're not, it's just at an accelerated pace due to a situation with no tactical options. Because neither of us had any this turn. Getting attention is a big part of the game.

Gunn was the one that said the honor has kinda been lost.
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| May 19, 2018, 1:24 am
Quoting P. Andrei

Just stop it. You're doing it over and over again. You have no problem using every trick you can think of, using any tool you have, manipulating smaller players into dying for you, then whenever something doesn't work according to your plan, you're here complaining about it. Every single time.

(Honor? Really?)

Actually, I have mostly been the one complaining. And I am the one who mentioned honor. No need to get aggressive though, lets be civil. We all have opinions and we all have the right to state them but dont get aggressive over them.
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| May 19, 2018, 1:24 am
Not trying to come off aggressive, sorry if it seems that way.
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| May 19, 2018, 1:27 am
Quoting P. Andrei

I'm not asking for explanation. I have no problem with the way you're playing, I don't think you've seen me complain, whether I liked it or not.

But you're acting as if we're doing something different than we were. We're not, it's just at an accelerated pace due to a situation with no tactical options. Because neither of us had any this turn. Getting attention is a big part of the game.

Gunn was the one that said the honor has kinda been lost.

Okay, I guess I was the only one that thought that this was wrong. But I was the one who was wrong haha.

My mistake. No hard feelings?

Letís get back to having fun with the game. :D
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| May 19, 2018, 1:28 am
Quoting P. Andrei
Not trying to come off aggressive, sorry if it seems that way.

Ah, got it. No worries. Sometimes itís hard to interpret text. :)
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| May 19, 2018, 1:29 am
Quoting P. Andrei
Not trying to come off aggressive, sorry if it seems that way.

Ah mkay. Just misread it. It is stinking hard to tell what someone's attitude is without seeing there face and hearing their voice. Thats why I sometimes use faces :P (It does tend to make others think you 5...)
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| May 19, 2018, 1:29 am
Just gonna leave this here: https://youtu.be/xzpndHtdl9A
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| May 19, 2018, 1:31 am
Just finished up a Non-DA3 Lucario MOC, I gotta say, it's probably (I know I have said this before) my best build. Was a pain in the rear to make though.
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| May 19, 2018, 1:31 am
Quoting Daniel H.
Okay, I guess I was the only one that thought that this was wrong. But I was the one who was wrong haha.

My mistake. No hard feelings?

Letís get back to having fun with the game. :D


Morally speaking, many things we're doing are probably wrong. :)) But this game is evil, pushing you to do things you probably would frown at otherwise.

And that's one of the things that makes it so exciting I guess.

Yes, let's do that and good luck to you.
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| May 19, 2018, 1:31 am
Quoting P. Andrei

Morally speaking, many things we're doing are probably wrong. :)) But this game is evil, pushing you to do things you probably would frown at otherwise.

And that one of the things that makes it so exciting I guess.

Yes, let's do that and good luck to you.

Haha, indeed.

Good luck to you too! :)
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| May 19, 2018, 1:32 am
Quoting General Gunn ~
Just finished up a Non-DA3 Lucario MOC, I gotta say, it's probably (I know I have said this before) my best build. Was a pain in the rear to make though.

Pokemon you say? Got any plans to make more?
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| May 19, 2018, 1:35 am
Quoting Sam Sanister
Pokemon you say? Got any plans to make more?

Hopefully!! I want to have another one to have a duel. :D
You a fan of Pokťmon? (If so who's your fav?)
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| May 19, 2018, 1:38 am
Quoting General Gunn ~
Hopefully!! I want to have another one to have a duel. :D
You a fan of Pokťmon? (If so who's your fav?)

I like too many to pick a favorite, even narrowing it down to favorite per type.
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| May 19, 2018, 1:39 am
This is how I like my pokemons. :))

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/332/32456170180_fc07aee204_c.jpg
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| May 19, 2018, 1:40 am
Quoting P. Andrei
This is how I like my pokemons. :))

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/332/32456170180_fc07aee204_c.jpg

Cecilie Fritzvold used "Hit-and-Run"!
It's super effective!
Pikachu "fainted"!
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| May 19, 2018, 1:49 am
Quoting Sam Sanister
I like too many to pick a favorite, even narrowing it down to favorite per type.

Well, what are Pokťmon you like? :P my favs are Lucario/Mega Lucario is my fav. Absol/Mega Absol is my second fav. After that no clue
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| May 19, 2018, 1:51 am
Quoting General Gunn ~
Well, what are Pokťmon you like? :P my favs are Lucario/Mega Lucario is my fav. Absol/Mega Absol is my second fav. After that no clue

Oh, more Pokemon than are in this song: https://youtu.be/nZCZ7M_lifM
I do like Absol as well.
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| May 19, 2018, 2:09 am
Quoting Sam Sanister
Oh, more Pokemon than are in this song: https://youtu.be/nZCZ7M_lifM
I do like Absol as well.

I can basically only veiw this site on my phone, (Parental restrictions) so I cant look at links. But yeah, Absol is a neat one. I have to say their least creative name is "Seel" xD
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| May 19, 2018, 2:10 am

Gotcha beat by literally a week ago:
https://i.imgur.com/dc1Ld6B.png
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| May 19, 2018, 2:11 am
Quoting General Gunn ~
I can basically only veiw this site on my phone, (Parental restrictions) so I cant look at links. But yeah, Absol is a neat one. I have to say their least creative name is "Seel" xD

It's Weird Al's Polkamon, if you haven't heard of it.

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| May 19, 2018, 2:15 am
Quoting Sam Sanister
It's Weird Al's Polkamon, if you haven't heard of it.

That sounds fabulous
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| May 19, 2018, 2:16 am
Quoting General Gunn ~
That sounds fabulous

Oh, it's fabulous.
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| May 19, 2018, 2:19 am
Quoting Sam Sanister
Oh, it's fabulous.

Here is an interesting question, what is you least favorite Pokťmon? (Or just one you dislike)
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| May 19, 2018, 2:20 am
Quoting General Gunn ~
Here is an interesting question, what is you least favorite Pokťmon? (Or just one you dislike)

Well, I really only dislike fighting ground/water types, because I usually don't have any grass-type moves to deal with them quickly.
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| May 19, 2018, 2:27 am
Quoting Sam Sanister
Well, I really only dislike fighting ground/water types, usually because I don't have any grass-type moves to deal with them quickly.

I think we are thinking of teo diffrent things. I am referring to just how they look and such, I think your referring to one of the video games? I have played the TGC but never one of the video games. (I dont think maining Lucario in super Smash Bros counts :P)
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| May 19, 2018, 2:36 am
Quoting General Gunn ~
I think we are thinking of teo diffrent things. I am referring to just how they look and such, I think your referring to one of the video games? I have played the TGC but never one of the video games. (I dont think maining Lucario in super Smash Bros counts :P)

Yeah, I've played at least one game from each batch that's come out for handhelds (so no Gamecube games). I do have some trading cards as well.
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| May 19, 2018, 2:43 am
Quoting Sam Sanister
Yeah, I've played at least one game from each batch that's come out for handhelds (so no Gamecube games). I do have some trading cards as well.

It bugs me, I still dont have a Lucario EX or Mega. But the full art Mega Lucario is 6$ on Amazon... debating if I want it. What cards do you have? Do you collect it for fun or for actually playing?

(Also should we move this conversation elsewhere?)
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| May 19, 2018, 2:45 am
Quoting General Gunn ~
It bugs me, I still dont have a Lucario EX or Mega. But the full art Mega Lucario is 6$ on Amazon... debating if I want it. What cards do you have? Do you collect it for fun or for actually playing?

(Also should we move this conversation elsewhere?)

It's general conversation, and better than the current alternative. I've not picked up any cards since a bit after Diamond/Pearl/Platinum came out.
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| May 19, 2018, 2:58 am
Quoting Sam Sanister
It's general conversation, and better than the current alternative. I've not picked up any cards since a bit after Diamond/Pearl/Platinum came out.

Im trying to remember when that was, but I dont have any cards from then. I have Black And White, XYZ, and Sun And Moon cards. I started collecting when XYZ was first coming out I think. First 4$ pack I got I pulled a Mega Full Art Sizor (I think im spelling it wrong) I had no clue that it was rare. xD
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| May 19, 2018, 3:03 am

I like turtle Pokemon. :P
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| May 19, 2018, 3:05 am
Quoting General Gunn ~
Im trying to remember when that was, but I dont have any cards from then. I have Black And White, XYZ, and Sun And Moon cards. I started collecting when XYZ was first coming out I think. First 4$ pack I got I pulled a Mega Full Art Sizor (I think im spelling it wrong) I had no clue that it was rare. xD

Literally over a decade ago. :P
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| May 19, 2018, 3:05 am
Quoting Sam Sanister
Literally over a decade ago. :P

Oh wowza, definitely dont have any of those xD
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| May 19, 2018, 3:10 am
Welcome back. Have a drink..
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| May 21, 2018, 3:42 pm
Quoting Sam Sanister
And then there's Sweigart, who's gotten his over 200 MILPO just by posting quality builds and socializing. :)

Bingo. That's it kids; that's the secret. It's not even a secret, really.
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| May 21, 2018, 3:44 pm
Hey hey hey, weíre back baby!
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| May 21, 2018, 3:54 pm
It's alive!
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| May 21, 2018, 3:55 pm
I wonder how the AW will be handled, seeing as MOCpages died before it ended.
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| May 21, 2018, 3:56 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
I wonder how the AW will be handled, seeing as MOCpages died before it ended.

Cdr. Goldman said on Flickr that he'd just leave it open for another 12 hours, as that's about how much time was left. I suppose that starts now.
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| May 21, 2018, 4:01 pm
Quoting Kingdomview Bricks
Cdr. Goldman said on Flickr that he'd just leave it open for another 12 hours, as that's about how much time was left. I suppose that starts now.

Ah, cool.
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| May 21, 2018, 4:02 pm
Quoting Kingdomview Bricks
Cdr. Goldman said on Flickr that he'd just leave it open for another 12 hours, as that's about how much time was left. I suppose that starts now.

Thanks for the heads-up! And welcome back everybody.
Permalink
| May 21, 2018, 4:25 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
MEUSLIXTENSTEIN ATTACKS A1!!!

The Lycanthrope beat you to it. He will likely beat you too!
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| May 21, 2018, 5:02 pm
Quoting General Gunn ~
Does E9 border with E6 through a sea zone?

I hope not ha!
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| May 21, 2018, 6:22 pm
Are the new CATs still being released today?
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| May 21, 2018, 7:20 pm
Quoting General Gunn ~
Ah mkay. Just misread it. It is stinking hard to tell what someone's attitude is without seeing there face and hearing their voice. Thats why I sometimes use faces :P (It does tend to make others think you 5...)

Wait, you're not five? (I thought this was the smack thread.. I'll show myself out)

:P and hey look I put a face so you can't take it wrong!
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| May 21, 2018, 7:44 pm
Quoting W Navarre
Wait, you're not five? (I thought this was the smack thread.. I'll show myself out)

:P and hey look I put a face so you can't take it wrong!

Ill help you leave. Have a grenade. :)
Permalink
| May 21, 2018, 7:48 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Yes, some time tonight. Prepare to be irritated.

Oh boy.

Iím shaking in my custom made baby seal learher boots.
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| May 21, 2018, 7:55 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Oh boy.

Iím shaking in my custom made baby seal learher boots.

Gaarrh I was gonna say that!
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| May 21, 2018, 7:56 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Yes, some time tonight. Prepare to be irritated.

Ooh, yes, that's what I here to do... and complain, lots of it! :rubshands: Bring it on!
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| May 21, 2018, 7:59 pm
Hmm, Iíve got the slight feeling Iím being made fun of. Heheh.
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| May 21, 2018, 8:30 pm
I can build the drone... and uhhh. Thats it.
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| May 21, 2018, 8:54 pm
Wow. These CATs are niiiiice.

I think I can build one of them.. the drone.

The others are all way to freakiní big, Iíd never have the parts.

Seriously? A solar system?
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| May 21, 2018, 8:54 pm
Well, good game Andrei. I believe youíve beaten me.
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| May 21, 2018, 8:55 pm
I must say these specs are a tad outrageous. But, you are the boss.

Also, I will accept my defeat gladly :D
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| May 21, 2018, 8:56 pm
Quite the CATs if I must say. Pretty cool.

And if you were trying to screw us smaller builders over, youíve definitely succeeded.
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| May 21, 2018, 8:57 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
There is the whining I was expecting! You did not disappoint.

Glad I didnít.

May I ask, were these designed to screw anyone without massive funds to build with? :P
Permalink
| May 21, 2018, 8:59 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
You can always quit now, and save me a bunch of time calculating battles.

Or he could play until the last battle, like a true warrior.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:00 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Well, yes and no, they were designed to specifically screw with you. It's all about you, right?

Actually, it isnít. You seem to think that, though.

I was just asking.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:00 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Now that's funny.

I aim to amuse. ;)

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| May 21, 2018, 9:01 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Quite the CATs if I must say. Pretty cool.

And if you were trying to screw us smaller builders over, youíve definitely succeeded.

LDD is an option. Not a pretty option, but it is one.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:02 pm
Quoting Sam Sanister
LDD is an option. Not a pretty option, but it is one.

I suppose... I canít imagine trying to use Mindstorms/powerfunctions in LDD.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:03 pm
A simple google search shows it's possible to build an orrery out of LEGO.
Quite gear-heavy, but possible.
https://youtu.be/uv2veEGj0Yk
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| May 21, 2018, 9:06 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
On a slightly more serious note, the last set of categories are purposefully designed to be more difficult, it's an experiment for DA4 where each tier of MOCs will ramp up in difficulty.

Specifically, the ability to double your MILPO for a single MOC is a huge modifier to the game and it shouldn't be achievable with a sloppy placeholder.

For more clarity you'll have to ask the two guys who designed the categories.

I see, very interesting.

You werenít one of the designers?

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| May 21, 2018, 9:07 pm
Auspicious entrance! With complaining!! And yes, a mobile missile launcher, that's what I wanted to make! Just not looking forward to the larger than minifig dude, but he can be done!

And oh YAS! AN aircraft carrier! Don't kill me before I can do this, Shifu, please! Member we were buddies! (before you killed me :)

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| May 21, 2018, 9:09 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it?

No, I had nothing to do with these categories other than to tell them to really give you guys something to complain about.

Oh Iím quite capable of it. I was simply asking for clarification. Was I wrong to?
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| May 21, 2018, 9:09 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
On a slightly more serious note, the last set of categories are purposefully designed to be more difficult, it's an experiment for DA4 where each tier of MOCs will ramp up in difficulty.

Specifically, the ability to double your MILPO for a single MOC is a huge modifier to the game and it shouldn't be achievable with a sloppy placeholder.

For more clarity you'll have to ask the two guys who designed the categories.

Well. Guess it eliminates lower "tier" players. But I must say, there is a problem in sight with this. Its good, it removes placeholders. But, it makes it nearly impossible to be a band of a few weaker players and be able to take down big guys, because if you can only build the first few cats then the next are impossible, it basically makes it, if you have a big budget, just survive to the end and it gets easier. Just my thoughts in this.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:10 pm
These categories really are cool, I wish I had the parts (or money) to build them.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:10 pm
Quoting Patrick Boyle
On the plus side, the missile launcher is the perfect cat to sneak into a firetruck build!

Buck up friends, it's not a real war! If you lose you don't even have to stick around for the trash talk! Build what you can, have some fun, and die with dignity.

But but but... I want to build my Absol.... is it considered not having dignity to turn traitor and kill your teammate as your last act?
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| May 21, 2018, 9:11 pm
Quoting Patrick Boyle
On the plus side, the missile launcher is the perfect cat to sneak into a firetruck build!

Buck up friends, it's not a real war! If you lose you don't even have to stick around for the trash talk! Build what you can, have some fun, and die with dignity.

HAHA! Someone do it!

Oh, Iím not afraid of defeat. Not in the least.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:11 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
These categories really are cool, I wish I had the parts (or money) to build them.

The drone seems to be the easiest to build. I'd start with that.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:11 pm
Quoting Sam Sanister
The drone seems to be the easiest to build. I'd start with that.

Definitely. But I really just do not own the parts to build the others.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:12 pm
Quoting Sam Sanister
The drone seems to be the easiest to build. I'd start with that.

Yeah. Nick would be a monster at the Missile Truck
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| May 21, 2018, 9:12 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Weaker players will always lose.

Indeed.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:13 pm
Quoting Patrick Boyle

That would be a very unkind thing to do to Daniel! ;-)

Oh, I donít think he meant me...
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| May 21, 2018, 9:13 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Weaker players will always lose.

Debatable. But it is always entertaining to watch them try to fight off giants. Not very amusing to put them out of their misery so quickly
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| May 21, 2018, 9:13 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
No, I had nothing to do with these categories other than to tell them to really give you guys something to complain about.

;) That was an easy job?
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| May 21, 2018, 9:13 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Definitely. But I really just do not own the parts to build the others.

1. Your Drone does NOT actually have to be remote-controlled but it MUST look like it. There should be an antenna on the craft and you need to build a hand-held control device. These can be any scale.

The controller can be smaller than hand-size, so can the drone.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:14 pm
Quoting Patrick Boyle

That would be a very unkind thing for you to do to Daniel! ;-)

Ill just wait for someone (not gonna name names) to get to 1 territorythen POUNCE! :D (psst, wanna double team Daniel?)
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| May 21, 2018, 9:14 pm
Quoting Sam Sanister
1. Your Drone does NOT actually have to be remote-controlled but it MUST look like it. There should be an antenna on the craft and you need to build a hand-held control device. These can be any scale.

The controller can be smaller than hand-size, so can the drone.

Sorry, I meant the other CATs.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:15 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Then quit. Please quit and save us all from your miserable whining.

I was being very civilized and not whining, simply stating an opinion about something you are trying.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:16 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Please, lets not make this sexual, it's a G-rated site.

I dont know where your trying to go with this but lets not go there
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| May 21, 2018, 9:17 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Please, lets not make this sexual, it's a G-rated site.

I can assure you he meant nothing of the sort, he just meant ďteam up on DanielĒ.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:18 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Why chose? You were both civilized and whining. Sure you don't want to quit? Things are so terribly unfair that I'm sure nobody would blame you. I'm sure you would have won otherwise.

Me win? Puh-lease.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:20 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
But you went there first...now I'm confused.

I meant jokingly that me and Pat should betray daniel and kill him. I have no clue what you got from that msg.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:21 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
That's what she said.

Whose a "She"? Me?
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| May 21, 2018, 9:22 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
But you went there first...now I'm confused.

Let me try again, I can assure you he meant nothing of the sort. You simply chose to interpret it that way.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:22 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Sorry, I meant the other CATs.

Last time I made something longer than 60 studs, it didn't look particularly good. But, I've made advancements in my LEGO collection since then, so I could probably make a *passable* carrier.
It's gonna have to be a super simple design, but I wonder if I could get away with only 4 studs above the water line...
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| May 21, 2018, 9:22 pm
Quoting Sam Sanister
Last time I made something longer than 60 studs, it didn't look particularly good. But, I've made advancements in my LEGO collection since then, so I could probably make a *passable* carrier.
It's gonna have to be a super simple design, but I wonder if I could get away with only 4 studs above the water line...

Yeah... 60 studs is bigger than anything Iíve made.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:23 pm
Quoting Sam Sanister
Last time I made something longer than 60 studs, it didn't look particularly good. But, I've made advancements in my LEGO collection since then, so I could probably make a *passable* carrier.
It's gonna have to be a super simple design, but I wonder if I could get away with only 4 studs above the water line...

4 studs? That sounds like place holder material
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| May 21, 2018, 9:23 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Could be, I'm not sure what your story is. Are you confused, or is it just me?

I am crazy confused o.O
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| May 21, 2018, 9:23 pm
Quoting Patrick Boyle

Good!

Yeah, I agree
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| May 21, 2018, 9:24 pm
Quoting General Gunn ~
4 studs? That sounds like place holder material

Well, it'd certainly take some skill to make a placeholder at this scale.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:25 pm
Quoting Sam Sanister
Well, it'd certainly take some skill to make a placeholder at this scale.

Indeed. All of these, bar the drone, are rather hard to build placeholders for. Which is a good thing, I suppose.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:26 pm
Quoting Sam Sanister
Well, it'd certainly take some skill to make a placeholder at this scale.

*sees two 30+ stud long basplates. Gets an idea. Sees Goldmans frown* ...Uh yeah I agree
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| May 21, 2018, 9:26 pm
I've done longer than one hundred studs SHIPs. Never venture never win! I did my first SHIP when I wasn't nothing too fine of a builder too, just had to make my collection work for it, and I know you all can do it too, if you had a mind to and got creative. Where's the spirit? Go big or go home!
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| May 21, 2018, 9:30 pm
Quoting W Navarre
I've done longer than one hundred studs SHIPs. Never venture never win! I did my first SHIP when I wasn't nothing too fine of a builder too, just had to make my collection work for it, and I know you all can do it too, if you had a mind to and got creative. Where's the spirit? Go big or go home!

I really donít have the parts, though. It doesnít matter though, I never stood a chance against the venerated P. Andrei, and I accept defeat with open arms.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:32 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Ok, everything seems to be sorted out. I'll be back in a couple of hours to see how everything is going. Don't engage in any double-teaming until I get back with my video camera.

Remember, specific questions about the category specs must be reserved for either CSM Barrett or CSM VAkkron.


It has been quite interesting reading the comments here before going to the new specs haha.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:35 pm
Quoting Doug Hughes
It has been quite interesting reading the comments here before going to the new specs haha.

If you love listening to complaining, you picked the right thread to read...
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| May 21, 2018, 9:37 pm
Quoting Doug Hughes
It has been quite interesting reading the comments here before going to the new specs haha.

I bet LOL!
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| May 21, 2018, 9:37 pm
Quoting W Navarre
Go big or go home!

I know a doctor up in Canadia you should talk to.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:41 pm
So, I know there are quite a good amount of ill feelings towards me, (due to my irritating whining and st000pid questions) but do those ill feelings carry over outside of DA? As many have previously said people act much different in a game then how they would in person.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:45 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
I bet LOL!

By the way, after reading through the specs, it appears the space program and drone builds are both not at all size dependent. You may need to pick up a bit of technic or PF to get the orrery working, but from the experience I had with the orrery I built for the King Sven's Planetarium build (simpler but similar idea) and from what I've seen online of other orrery examples, it's more just wrapping your head around it that's the tricky part. Small is ok. As suggested earlier you should consider LDD or some other digital program for the bigger builds, especially the carrier as that has pretty much no moving parts. You can do it man! Don't let these things scare you off. You've been crushing this game so far, don't be intimidated!
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| May 21, 2018, 9:55 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
I know a doctor up in Canadia you should talk to.

Even Lee can only do so much though.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:57 pm
Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
Even Lee can only do so much though.

Whos lee?

(Sadly the pun only really works if you say it.)
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| May 21, 2018, 9:58 pm
Quoting Doug Hughes
By the way, after reading through the specs, it appears the space program and drone builds are both not at all size dependent. You may need to pick up a bit of technic or PF to get the orrery working, but from the experience I had with the orrery I built for the King Sven's Planetarium build (simpler but similar idea) and from what I've seen online of other orrery examples, it's more just wrapping your head around it that's the tricky part. Small is ok. As suggested earlier you should consider LDD or some other digital program for the bigger builds, especially the carrier as that has pretty much no moving parts. You can do it man! Don't let these things scare you off. You've been crushing this game so far, don't be intimidated!

Thanks man. :)

It doesnít matter too much though, Andrei has this in the bag. And to be quite frank, Iím rather burnt out. Iím looking forward to building casually again. This game just isnít quite my style, and I donít fit in with the crowd.

That being said, I have had fun. But Iím looking forward to getting back to my Bionicle community. :)
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| May 21, 2018, 10:00 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
You can always quit now, and save me a bunch of time calculating battles.

Me? Calculate? I just flip a coin. (Learned that trick from Shifu, thanks man!)
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| May 21, 2018, 10:00 pm
Quoting General Gunn ~
4 studs? That sounds like place holder material

Actually, if you were to build a carrier of exactly 60 studs in length, a freeboard of 4 studs is more than you would need. A Nimitz-class carrier is almost 1100 feet long and has a freeboard of only about 60 feet. Using those proportions, a 60-stud Nimitz model would only have a freeboard of 3.2 studs, or about 8 plates.

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| May 21, 2018, 10:57 pm
Man, these new categories are awesome! Nothing I was prepared for, to say the least! Fantastic stuff as always Keith, Nick and VA! Iím looking forward to what people do with the specs.
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| May 21, 2018, 10:58 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Yeah... 60 studs is bigger than anything Iíve made.

I've passed the 60 stud measurement three times, with only two of those creations being uploaded to MOCpages. Of the 3 builds, only one of them is actually any good.
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| May 21, 2018, 10:59 pm
Quoting Mark B.

Actually, if you were to build a carrier of exactly 60 studs in length, a freeboard of 4 studs is more than you would need. A Nimitz-class carrier is almost 1100 feet long and has a freeboard of only about 60 feet. Using those proportions, a 60-stud Nimitz model would only have a freeboard of 3.2 studs, or about 8 plates.

Can't wait to see what you and Seaman SPB come up with; the carrier is right in your area of expertise.
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| May 21, 2018, 11:01 pm
Ayo, there wasn't a minimum width requirement for the Aircraft Carrier...
INB4 someone builds one that's only 4 studs wide...
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| May 21, 2018, 11:25 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Sam Sanister
Ayo, there wasn't a minimum width requirement for the Aircraft Carrier...
INB4 someone builds one that's only 4 studs wide...

Please, be my guest.

And make sure it can fit 5 airplanes in an enclosed hangar bay in the middle.

And it can stand on its own without falling over.

I will smile while I slap a DQ on it. ;)

OK, that's a little harsh, but I'm not going to put a width requirement on it. That's for you to test, and your fellow builders to refuse to like if it looks nothing like an aircraft carrier.
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| May 21, 2018, 11:52 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Does that mean you surrender, because if so, I'm ready to accept it. Nobody could ever beat the big bad wolf P. Andrei, it's virtually impossible, so no shame in quitting.

.....

And these kinds of comments are why Iím rather tired of DA3.
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| May 21, 2018, 11:52 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Sam Sanister
A simple google search shows it's possible to build an orrery out of LEGO.
Quite gear-heavy, but possible.
https://youtu.be/uv2veEGj0Yk

They don't take that many gears, necessarily. I know Doug has made one that's not quite specs accurate which is pretty minimalistic. Perhaps he would be kind enough to link to it for your guys' possible benefit.
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| May 21, 2018, 11:57 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Is there? I wouldn't say a good amount...more like a determined minority. Your comment is hilarious though, just a few weeks ago you guys were accusing people of having low moral character outside of the game and now...this comment. I can only speak for myself, but I really don't have an opinion of you outside of DA, it's pretty much all I have to go on. You seem okay though.

Really? We accused people of having low character moral *outside* of the game?

Iím afraid youíve misunderstood us again.
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| May 21, 2018, 11:59 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
I don't think you understood my comment. You don't calculate anything...I, on the other hand, have to calculate everything. So if you quit, that means one less battle to calculate each week.

For the record I hope you stay, but if you guys really feel like the deck is so impossibly stacked against you and your enemies are invulnerable, why tie yourself in knots over it. Surrender and go have some cookies.

You see, itís not about the deck being stacked against us, itís simply Iíve lost interest in the game.

Thatís it. I wonít quit however. Iíll ride it out.
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| May 22, 2018, 12:00 am
Quoting Keith Goldman
It's almost as if we speak different languages.

It sure seems like it.
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| May 22, 2018, 12:01 am
 Group admin 
Quoting General Gunn ~
Well. Guess it eliminates lower "tier" players. But I must say, there is a problem in sight with this. Its good, it removes placeholders. But, it makes it nearly impossible to be a band of a few weaker players and be able to take down big guys, because if you can only build the first few cats then the next are impossible, it basically makes it, if you have a big budget, just survive to the end and it gets easier. Just my thoughts in this.

Funny thing is, only one of these CATs is at all easily achievable if one isn't a good builder. If you are a good builder, you'll be investing time troubleshooting and planning, not complaining. If someone else is a good builder, they may already have bought an enormous collection. Power to them. But I understand where you're coming from. I too have a very small collection. The trick, as you know, is to make the most with what you have. I knew full well that these were difficult. Would you like some consolation? They're difficult for EVERYONE. Good builders and bad builders alike will find these a challenge. And yes, at least the builders with massive collections won't have to worry about finding the right piece. But that's a handicap that you're stuck with, that you know you have, and that you should already know how to overcome. Unless everything you've built so far is only half-rate because you believe you actually need a large collection to make quality MOCs.

Size restrictions might be difficult, but that's why the world has brothers. And LDD.

It can be done. Now you have the option to prove it! Best of luck, general.
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| May 22, 2018, 12:04 am
Quoting Keith Goldman
Funny how you lost interest when you started to get your head handed to you on the battlefield. Still, I grudgingly admire you for not quitting, I thought for sure you would.

Oh I lost interest long before, actually.

As I have said many times before, I was never in it to win it. The game is quite simply not my style. It is not in any way a bad game, in fact, it is quite excellent, itís just not my cup of tea.
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| May 22, 2018, 12:05 am
Quoting Keith Goldman
Funny how you lost interest when you started to get your head handed to you on the battlefield. Still, I grudgingly admire you for not quitting, I thought for sure you would.

I dont want to be known as "The whiner who quit DA" the title "The Whiner Who Stayed Even Though His Doom Was Near" will do.
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| May 22, 2018, 12:06 am
Quoting Keith Goldman
Couldn't agree more, I think we're in for some cool MOCs.

Definitely.
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| May 22, 2018, 12:07 am
Quoting VAkkron ô
Please, be my guest.

And make sure it can fit 5 airplanes in an enclosed hangar bay in the middle.

And it can stand on its own without falling over.

I will smile while I slap a DQ on it. ;)

OK, that's a little harsh, but I'm not going to put a width requirement on it. That's for you to test, and your fellow builders to refuse to like if it looks nothing like an aircraft carrier.

I think outside the specific technical nature of a functioning orrery, there's potential for some real oddball stuff for the other new CATs.
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| May 22, 2018, 12:48 am
Get ready to have your eyes burned out, I'm guaranteed to make some of the existing placeholders look good with these new cats. :))

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"the venerated P. Andrei"

Oh boy, looks like I've done something wrong yet again.

Don't even know what to say to that, you've been "more venerated" than me for the biggest part of the game. Maybe you still are, I dunno.
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| May 22, 2018, 12:57 am
Quoting P. Andrei
Get ready to have your eyes burned out, I'm guaranteed to make some of the existing placeholders look good with these new cats. :))

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"the venerated P. Andrei"

Oh boy, looks like I've done something wrong yet again.

Don't even know what to say to that, you've been "more venerated" than me for the biggest part of the game. Maybe you still are, I dunno.

Sorry, perhaps I used the wrong word. I simply meant you are an excellent builder. :)
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| May 22, 2018, 1:01 am
Quoting P. Andrei

Don't forget, you can pattern the huge flat space that is a carrier's flight deck. ;)
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| May 22, 2018, 1:05 am
Quoting Werewolff Studios
Man, these new categories are awesome! Nothing I was prepared for, to say the least! Fantastic stuff as always Keith, Nick and VA! Iím looking forward to what people do with the specs.

One thing I'll say, is that with the exception of the drone, these CATs are all placeholder-proof, and that is a good thing. I will be very impressed if anyone plunks down a space program before the next AW, although Nick could probably do it if he were still in the fight. Although the carrier is right up my alley, there is no way I'm getting it done this week. With a gallon of coffee a day, maybe next week.
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| May 22, 2018, 1:06 am
Quoting Mark B.
One thing I'll say, is that with the exception of the drone, these CATs are all placeholder-proof, and that is a good thing. I will be very impressed if anyone plunks down a space program before the next AW, although Nick could probably do it if he were still in the fight. Although the carrier is right up my alley, there is no way I'm getting it done this week. With a gallon of coffee a day, maybe next week.

Canít wait to see what you come up with!
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| May 22, 2018, 1:08 am
Quoting Mark B.
Although the carrier is right up my alley, there is no way I'm getting it done this week. With a gallon of coffee a day, maybe next week.

I wanted to build a patrol boat with a certain design, but I'm going to repurpose it for the carrier. It'll be more fitting for the name, as well.
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| May 22, 2018, 1:16 am
Sanister, I give you a challenge, build a Pokťmon! :P im surprised you havent yet tbh.

If you did, who would you make?
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| May 22, 2018, 2:02 am
Quoting General Gunn ~
Sanister, I give you a challenge, build a Pokťmon! :P im surprised you havent yet tbh.

If you did, who would you make?

This is the closest I got to building a Pokemon: http://www.moc-pages.com/moc.php/411817
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| May 22, 2018, 2:03 am
Quoting Sam Sanister
This is the closest I got to building a Pokemon: http://www.moc-pages.com/moc.php/411817

Thats a neat take on Latios! (Or is it the other one? I cant keep the two straight) but you really should make one :P
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| May 22, 2018, 2:05 am
Quoting General Gunn ~
Thats a neat take on Latios! (Or is it the other one? I cant keep the two straight) but you really should make one :P

Haven't given it much thought. Certainly no shortage of designs to choose from.
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| May 22, 2018, 2:17 am
Quoting Sam Sanister
Haven't given it much thought. Certainly no shortage of designs to choose from.

There are almost to many designs to choose from! I am definitely gonna take a shot making an Mega Absol at the same scale as my Mega Lucario.
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| May 22, 2018, 2:21 am
Late to the party (timelines..), but hey: cool cats! After reading them, I now feel an equal amount of stress and enjoyment take place for what were question marks. Time to get to the drawing boards :D
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| May 22, 2018, 2:55 am
Quoting Pico van Grootveld
Late to the party (timelines..), but hey: cool cats! After reading them, I now feel an equal amount of stress and enjoyment take place for what were question marks. Time to get to the drawing boards :D

I agree! Excellent categories! There will be many beautiful works! And thanks to CSM VAkkron for the aircraft carrier! I'm finally in my comfort zone. ))
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| May 22, 2018, 3:01 am
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Quoting Mark B.
One thing I'll say, is that with the exception of the drone, these CATs are all placeholder-proof, and that is a good thing. I will be very impressed if anyone plunks down a space program before the next AW, although Nick could probably do it if he were still in the fight. Although the carrier is right up my alley, there is no way I'm getting it done this week. With a gallon of coffee a day, maybe next week.

Thanks Mark, placeholder proofing was uppermost in our minds when designing them. Funny how the producers of the most egregious placeholders are the ones complaining the loudest. Mission accomplished as far I'm concerned.
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| May 22, 2018, 6:02 am
Indeed, excellent categories! Should lead to some great builds, looking forward to it.
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| May 22, 2018, 7:50 am
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Quoting Kingdomview Bricks
Indeed, excellent categories! Should lead to some great builds, looking forward to it.

Even though I'm not in the game, I'm still feeling the need to make a Missile Launcher...
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| May 22, 2018, 8:54 am
Quoting Nick Barrett
Even though I'm not in the game, I'm still feeling the need to make a Missile Launcher...

Masochist. ;)

Brilliant categories by the way. Reading them was hilarious as it couldn't be any more obvious which one came up with each category.

I actually can't wait to build another orrery!

(masochist. :P)
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| May 22, 2018, 9:44 am
Quoting Nick Barrett
Even though I'm not in the game, I'm still feeling the need to make a Missile Launcher...

Definitely! Out of competition. We'll use it to defend the World Court!
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| May 22, 2018, 9:48 am
Quoting Seaman SPb
Definitely! Out of competition. We'll use it to defend the World Court!

Now THAT is a bit of brilliance right there. We have three of the best builders controlling the action with no way to interact on the battlefield. I think for DA4, maybe consider the WC territory defended by DAS combined MILPO. Boss challenge? Accepted!
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| May 22, 2018, 10:53 am
Quoting matt rowntRee
Now THAT is a bit of brilliance right there. We have three of the best builders controlling the action with no way to interact on the battlefield. I think for DA4, maybe consider the WC territory defended by DAS combined MILPO. Boss challenge? Accepted!


That actually sounds pretty awesome. The reward could be an achievement or something.
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| May 22, 2018, 11:03 am
Quoting VAkkron ô
They don't take that many gears, necessarily. I know Doug has made one that's not quite specs accurate which is pretty minimalistic. Perhaps he would be kind enough to link to it for your guys' possible benefit.

Oddly enough I don't have any video of the final cleaned up version... but this first cut should give you a better idea of what I did as it is also wide open to see the gearing:
https://flic.kr/p/VJF99y
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| May 22, 2018, 11:34 am
Quoting matt rowntRee
Now THAT is a bit of brilliance right there. We have three of the best builders controlling the action with no way to interact on the battlefield. I think for DA4, maybe consider the WC territory defended by DAS combined MILPO. Boss challenge? Accepted!


A question from the National Hydrographic Institute.

1. Entice DAS to the island.
2. Permission to arm!
3. Attack and grab all the power in the game!
4. Change all the categories at the fire trucks and Bionicle!

Am I getting this right? ;)
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| May 22, 2018, 11:34 am
Quoting P. Andrei

That actually sounds pretty awesome. The reward could be an achievement or something.

Ha! Love it! But of course none of us would EVER stoop to attacking the seat of the world government... ;)
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| May 22, 2018, 11:36 am
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Quoting Seaman SPb

A question from the National Hydrographic Institute.

1. Entice DAS to the island.
2. Permission to arm!
3. Attack and grab all the power in the game!
4. Change all the categories at the fire trucks and Bionicle!

Am I getting this right? ;)

Your CloneOnAPlate will comply with the following specs:

1. It is ONE minifigure with at least one accessory item. It MUST be 'customized' with a Sharpie.

2. It will stand on ONE plate of any size.

3. The photo will be slightly out of focus.

4. The write-up must be at least 200 words, to contain at least TEN grammatical and spelling errors.
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| May 22, 2018, 11:49 am
Quoting Nick Barrett
Your CloneOnAPlate will comply with the following specs:

1. It is ONE minifigure with at least one accessory item. It MUST be 'customized' with a Sharpie.

2. It will stand on ONE plate of any size.

3. The photo will be slightly out of focus.

4. The write-up must be at least 200 words, to contain at least TEN grammatical and spelling errors.

Are these the official specs? Then I ran to build an army! Don't tell anyone else!
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| May 22, 2018, 11:59 am
Quoting Nick Barrett
Your CloneOnAPlate will comply with the following specs:

1. It is ONE minifigure with at least one accessory item. It MUST be 'customized' with a Sharpie.

2. It will stand on ONE plate of any size.

3. The photo will be slightly out of focus.

4. The write-up must be at least 200 words, to contain at least TEN grammatical and spelling errors.

You're describing 90% of the MOCs on MOCpages, Nick.
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| May 22, 2018, 2:17 pm
XDDD
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| May 22, 2018, 3:10 pm
Quoting Ron L. Mitchell

Regime change in the middle of the battle? Attack results aren't even posted yet.
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| May 22, 2018, 3:18 pm
20 MILPO, by 20 MILPO... good game Andrei.
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| May 22, 2018, 3:35 pm
Congratulations To Daniel! Today, military luck is on his side. RoonTree also go into a DAS?
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| May 22, 2018, 3:41 pm
I salute you General Rowntree; you were a worthy opponent.

Bit of a rough way to go out too- did you know that Harvey was leaving you to the wolves or were you in suspense (like I was) that whole time?
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| May 22, 2018, 3:41 pm
Quoting Kingdomview Bricks
I salute you General Rowntree; you were a worthy opponent.

Bit of a rough way to go out too- did you know that Harvey was leaving you to the wolves or were you in suspense (like I was) that whole time?

Harvey's back in the world of bionicles...

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| May 22, 2018, 3:44 pm
By the skin of my teeth! Wow, good game Andrei. Heck of an AW. Well played, I look forward to many more enjoyable AWs with you. :)
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| May 22, 2018, 3:44 pm
Also, Iíd like to apologize for my complaints last night, and all my complaining in general. Iíve made mistakes, and I hope to learn from them. Iím genuinely ashamed at how Iíve behaved myself, and I hope Iíve not lowered your opinion of me too much. ;)

From now on Iím going to do my best to think about what I say before I say it.

Thank you all for helping me grow as a builder, and more importantly, as a person. You guys rock. :)
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| May 22, 2018, 3:50 pm
Quoting Zach Sweigart
You're describing 90% of the MOCs on MOCpages, Nick.
Exactly. Sad.

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| May 22, 2018, 4:20 pm
I think I'll have to build a giant firetruck carrier that looks like a firetruck. And uses Bionicle parts to build the whole thing.
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| May 22, 2018, 4:22 pm
Quoting Jack Sparrow
I think I'll have to build a giant firetruck carrier that looks like a firetruck. And uses Bionicle parts to build the whole thing.

Do it! XD
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| May 22, 2018, 4:23 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Do it! XD
I couldn't even type that with a straight face! Flying firetrucks launching off the top of a giant floating firetruck? Could you imagine how red Mr. Goldman would turn? X-D

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| May 22, 2018, 4:26 pm
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Quoting Daniel H.
Also, Iíd like to apologize for my complaints last night, and all my complaining in general. Iíve made mistakes, and I hope to learn from them. Iím genuinely ashamed at how Iíve behaved myself, and I hope Iíve not lowered your opinion of me too much. ;)

From now on Iím going to do my best to think about what I say before I say it.

Thank you all for helping me grow as a builder, and more importantly, as a person. You guys rock. :)

You're welcome. This game does that to the right sort of person. Well done this AW, I expect General Andrei will be back for a round 2...
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| May 22, 2018, 5:09 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
Quoting Ron L. Mitchell

Regime change in the middle of the battle? Attack results aren't even posted yet.

http://www.moc-pages.com/moc.php/447394
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| May 22, 2018, 6:13 pm
Well well, Matt. We could have ruled the world together!! Sorry to see you gone from our verdant overly green isle. Was looking forward to crossing swords with you again if we could battle through the melee to the encounter! Well played dying right above the grave you dug for me too!
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| May 22, 2018, 7:26 pm
Quoting W Navarre
Well well, Matt. We could have ruled the world together!! Sorry to see you gone from our verdant overly green isle. Was looking forward to crossing swords with you again if we could battle through the melee to the encounter! Well played dying right above the grave you dug for me too!

Already ruled it, and while I did I found that it oddly enough wasn't yours to share. But thanks for the offer, I guess?

And I believe the official color there is called Shifu green. I recommend respecting it as you have quite an uphill task ahead of you if you don't. Best of luck though, you are going to need a LOT of it.
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| May 22, 2018, 8:37 pm
Hey guys!

Mate, I've missed heaps! Matt's been knocked out as Shifu continues his reign, Dan's survived Andrei's attack and Ron threw in a regime change! What an AW!

Apologies for my recent absence, I had my appendix chopped out yesterday and won't be too active for the next few days to come. Nevertheless, I'll still be around, and might even be able to get one of the new categories up! Never tried technic building ever, but that orrery looks like one heck of a CAT!

Thanks everyone.
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| May 22, 2018, 8:42 pm
Ouch! Hope you recover well. Don't lick your wounds too much eh.

Quoting Werewolff Studios
Hey guys!

Mate, I've missed heaps! Matt's been knocked out as Shifu continues his reign, Dan's survived Andrei's attack and Ron threw in a regime change! What an AW!

Apologies for my recent absence, I had my appendix chopped out yesterday and won't be too active for the next few days to come. Nevertheless, I'll still be around, and might even be able to get one of the new categories up! Never tried technic building ever, but that orrery looks like one heck of a CAT!

Thanks everyone.


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| May 22, 2018, 8:44 pm
Quoting Werewolff Studios
Hey guys!

Mate, I've missed heaps! Matt's been knocked out as Shifu continues his reign, Dan's survived Andrei's attack and Ron threw in a regime change! What an AW!

Apologies for my recent absence, I had my appendix chopped out yesterday and won't be too active for the next few days to come. Nevertheless, I'll still be around, and might even be able to get one of the new categories up! Never tried technic building ever, but that orrery looks like one heck of a CAT!

Thanks everyone.

The "cone of shame" looks good on you! You rock it like a hurricane!
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| May 22, 2018, 8:49 pm
Quoting Werewolff Studios
Hey guys!

Mate, I've missed heaps! Matt's been knocked out as Shifu continues his reign, Dan's survived Andrei's attack and Ron threw in a regime change! What an AW!

Apologies for my recent absence, I had my appendix chopped out yesterday and won't be too active for the next few days to come. Nevertheless, I'll still be around, and might even be able to get one of the new categories up! Never tried technic building ever, but that orrery looks like one heck of a CAT!

Thanks everyone.

Ow! Now my appendix hurts...

Seriously though, thatís tough man. Hope you feel better soon!
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| May 22, 2018, 8:51 pm
Quoting Ron L. Mitchell
http://www.moc-pages.com/moc.php/447394

Mmmmmmokay. Perhaps I am missing something here, but what is that supposed to be? When the going gets tough, run away?

admirable.
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| May 22, 2018, 8:53 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
Mmmmmmokay. Perhaps I am missing something here, but what is that supposed to be? When the going gets tough, run away?

admirable.

Glad you appreciate, you are so understanding.
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| May 22, 2018, 8:57 pm
Quoting Kingdomview Bricks
I salute you General Rowntree; you were a worthy opponent.

Bit of a rough way to go out too- did you know that Harvey was leaving you to the wolves or were you in suspense (like I was) that whole time?

I salute you back, well played!

Had the call out to citizen Harvey, but Bionicle calls louder and who are we to judge? XD

Good luck in F, stick with Shifu and you both will go very far.

Also, get building some RVs for Ted; looking forward to seeing you at BW! :D
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| May 22, 2018, 8:59 pm
Quoting Ron L. Mitchell
Glad you appreciate, you are so understanding.

Enlighten me.
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| May 22, 2018, 9:00 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
Already ruled it, and while I did I found that it oddly enough wasn't yours to share. But thanks for the offer, I guess?

And I believe the official color there is called Shifu green. I recommend respecting it as you have quite an uphill task ahead of you if you don't. Best of luck though, you are going to need a LOT of it.

Thanks mate, I need it just to survive!
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| May 22, 2018, 9:27 pm
Quoting Pico van Grootveld

Well... I salute your ability in all aspects of the game. I couldn't believe my eyes seeing the AW results today. Great job pulling in 30+ likes on older builds since Friday morning! Now I fear the reaper closes in.
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| May 22, 2018, 10:22 pm
Quoting Doug Hughes
Well... I salute your ability in all aspects of the game. I couldn't believe my eyes seeing the AW results today. Great job pulling in 30+ likes on older builds since Friday morning! Now I fear the reaper closes in.

Pico tends to have that effect on people.
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| May 23, 2018, 2:17 am
You know it's serious business when you have to call in the cavalry! Had to keep close eye on my sheet all weekend. You had me upping the game since last few AW's and the game is all the better for it. Respect!
Quoting Doug Hughes
Well... I salute your ability in all aspects of the game. I couldn't believe my eyes seeing the AW results today. Great job pulling in 30+ likes on older builds since Friday morning! Now I fear the reaper closes in.


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| May 23, 2018, 3:24 am
Caleb, I'm going to hate you for approx. 1.5 years and 3 moon rotations for that orrery category. :))
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| May 23, 2018, 4:41 am
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Quoting P. Andrei
Caleb, I'm going to hate you for approx. 1.5 years and 3 moon rotations for that orrery category. :))

Aww, that's unfortunate. :(

I am excited by the prospect that in a few weeks the world could have two dozen more Lego orrerys to marvel at. That will be something of an accomplishment.

I hope you find a working method.
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| May 23, 2018, 8:39 am
Quoting matt rowntRee
Enlighten me.

Me enlighten you as to how understanding you are? Surely you jest! Or maybe you are fishing for complements, of which also becomes you not!
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| May 23, 2018, 8:41 am
Quoting Ron L. Mitchell
Me enlighten you as to how understanding you are? Surely you jest! Or maybe you are fishing for complements, of which also becomes you not!

Just fishing for an explanation of what you're doing since playing DA seems to be it not.

And don't call me Shirley.
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| May 23, 2018, 11:04 am
Quoting P. Andrei
Caleb, I'm going to hate you for approx. 1.5 years and 3 moon rotations for that orrery category. :))

XD

Itís one heck of a CAT.
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| May 23, 2018, 11:27 am
Quoting matt rowntRee
Just fishing for an explanation of what you're doing since playing DA seems to be it not.

And don't call me Shirley.

Alright then, full transparency time. My mother in law, who essentially adopted me when I married her daughter 30 years ago is dying of cancer! Since both of my parents are deceased, my in-laws mean more than ever to me. She actually has two different kinds; one is stage 4 the other is stage 3. The most aggressive of which has metastasised and has been found all over including her lungs. She has approximately 6 months left. My grandbaby has also been sick. Spent about 9 hours at Children's hospital Monday night! Not to mention my collaborative work for Brick Universe in August, I just do not have a lot of time to give to games, nor do I have a lot of patience! I got into this game to support Rutherford and Goldman and as a distraction from real life. But none of my builds took longer than a couple of hours as that is all I gave toward the effort. Sorry if this is too blunt or if it is not the answer you seek young padawan, but life is full of this thing called reality and sometimes it is awesome and sometimes it just sucks!!! That is all...
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| May 23, 2018, 2:13 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
Just fishing for an explanation of what you're doing since playing DA seems to be it not.

And don't call me Shirley.

My original response seems caught in moderation, we will see if it is forwarded or not...
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| May 23, 2018, 2:24 pm
Oh man.. ill be praying Ron
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| May 23, 2018, 2:36 pm
Iím very sorry to hear that Ron. Thoughts and prayers are being sent your way.
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| May 23, 2018, 2:45 pm
Heck of a close call with TWC! Good game SSOH!

I *used* to have the most DIPLO, hehe. Well played Andrei. :)
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| May 23, 2018, 3:18 pm
Quoting Ron L. Mitchell
Alright then, full transparency time. My mother in law, who essentially adopted me when I married her daughter 30 years ago is dying of cancer! Since both of my parents are deceased, my in-laws mean more than ever to me. She actually has two different kinds; one is stage 4 the other is stage 3. The most aggressive of which has metastasised and has been found all over including her lungs. She has approximately 6 months left. My grandbaby has also been sick. Spent about 9 hours at Children's hospital Monday night! Not to mention my collaborative work for Brick Universe in August, I just do not have a lot of time to give to games, nor do I have a lot of patience! I got into this game to support Rutherford and Goldman and as a distraction from real life. But none of my builds took longer than a couple of hours as that is all I gave toward the effort. Sorry if this is too blunt or if it is not the answer you seek young padawan, but life is full of this thing called reality and sometimes it is awesome and sometimes it just s..ks!!! That is all...

Thank you, it's actually an answer. To the specifics, I wish you and your family the best.

As to the lashing out at me for trying to figure out what that moc meant or your entire presence here, I find it unfair. But if you feel a need to finally attack someone in this game then go right ahead. I seem to have a loyal following of MP denizens that seem to contain pent up anger that I somehow manage to bring out. And if you cannot realize that we too have lives full of reality that have similar issues, then this little cathartic outburst will never do anyone especially you any good.

I'd ask you to talk further about it as we are all here to be supportive, but I find it to be of little help.

Best of luck with your realities.
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| May 23, 2018, 3:34 pm
Quoting Ron L. Mitchell
Alright then, full transparency time. My mother in law, who essentially adopted me when I married her daughter 30 years ago is dying of cancer! Since both of my parents are deceased, my in-laws mean more than ever to me. She actually has two different kinds; one is stage 4 the other is stage 3. The most aggressive of which has metastasised and has been found all over including her lungs. She has approximately 6 months left. My grandbaby has also been sick. Spent about 9 hours at Children's hospital Monday night! Not to mention my collaborative work for Brick Universe in August, I just do not have a lot of time to give to games, nor do I have a lot of patience! I got into this game to support Rutherford and Goldman and as a distraction from real life. But none of my builds took longer than a couple of hours as that is all I gave toward the effort. Sorry if this is too blunt or if it is not the answer you seek young padawan, but life is full of this thing called reality and sometimes it is awesome and sometimes it just sucks!!! That is all...

Man, thatís tough. Iíll be praying for you and your family, I hope all goes well.
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| May 23, 2018, 3:44 pm
Well, we're back, badder than ever. Ouch. I had 15 likes on my gun too. Well, don't know if I dare bother uploading it now.

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| May 28, 2018, 1:25 pm
Looks like we are set back a week
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| May 28, 2018, 1:31 pm
The change to new host looks to be a total failure. Sean has restored the DNS to the old server IPs (hence the jump back a week). I wouldn't upload anything right now, or attempt to continue DA3, until we see if the next attempt (Wednesday) is as bad as this one.

That probably means I can call you all total and complete smegheads safe in the knowledge that this timeline will get wiped out in 2 days.
(Red Dwarf joke for anyone unfamiliar)

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| May 28, 2018, 1:33 pm
Quoting Digital Dreams
The change to new host looks to be a total failure. Sean has restored the DNS to the old server IPs (hence the jump back a week). I wouldn't upload anything right now, or attempt to continue DA3, until we see if the next attempt (wednesday) is as bad as this one.

Yeah, sound advice... but I think we should have the AW today if we can.. then save all the info elsewhere, and if needed repost it afterwards. Of course, the fact that so many recently posted builds are down and likes gone.. ugh, that's rough to work with...
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| May 28, 2018, 1:38 pm
Yikes.

I think we should wait until after the next maintenance day to do the AW. Weíre delayed anyway.

If we run it today, people will need to post creations, just to get them deleted.
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| May 28, 2018, 1:44 pm
So, trying for an AW tomorrow...

Now, do I want to post my stuff?
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| May 28, 2018, 1:52 pm
Guess your right..and...brilliant observation:)
Quoting Digital Dreams
The change to new host looks to be a total failure. Sean has restored the DNS to the old server IPs (hence the jump back a week). I wouldn't upload anything right now, or attempt to continue DA3, until we see if the next attempt (Wednesday) is as bad as this one.

That probably means I can call you all total and complete smegheads safe in the knowledge that this timeline will get wiped out in 2 days. (Red Dwarf joke for anyone unfamiliar)


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| May 28, 2018, 1:55 pm
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Quoting Daniel H.
Yikes.

I think we should wait until after the next maintenance day to do the AW. Weíre delayed anyway.

If we run it today, people will need to post creations, just to get them deleted.

We're not running the AW today. the ORBAT is incomplete and you all will need time to get mocs re-posted and re-evaluated if they don't come back.
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| May 28, 2018, 1:56 pm
Quoting Nick Barrett
We're not running the AW today. the ORBAT is incomplete and you all will need time to get mocs re-posted and re-evaluated if they don't come back.

Sorry, when I said ďrun it todayĒ I meant ďrun it before the updateĒ. Typo on my part.
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| May 28, 2018, 1:56 pm
I fear all our attempts for orreries are rotating around the black hole that is mocpages
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| May 28, 2018, 2:00 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
We canít run the AW with so many missing MOCs and we canít be sure that everyone is aware of the window today. Itís unfortunate but itís our current reality. I doubt we will get the AW in until after the rescheduled Wednesday update. If we try to rush it, more chaos could result.

Yeah, I think it would be wise to wait until after the update.
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| May 28, 2018, 2:01 pm
Quoting Michiel Norp
I fear all our attempts for orreries are rotating around the black hole that is mocpages

Indeed...
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| May 28, 2018, 2:01 pm
Are we planning on having an AW before the update? Debating wether or not to post.
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| May 28, 2018, 2:31 pm
Quoting Digital Dreams
The change to new host looks to be a total failure. Sean has restored the DNS to the old server IPs (hence the jump back a week). I wouldn't upload anything right now, or attempt to continue DA3, until we see if the next attempt (Wednesday) is as bad as this one.

That probably means I can call you all total and complete smegheads safe in the knowledge that this timeline will get wiped out in 2 days.
(Red Dwarf joke for anyone unfamiliar)

Red Dwarf for the win!
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| May 28, 2018, 2:33 pm
Wow,this new MP is glorious! We're so blessed.
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| May 28, 2018, 2:36 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
Wow,this new MP is glorious! We're so blessed.

I agree!
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| May 28, 2018, 2:52 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
We canít run the AW with so many missing MOCs and we canít be sure that everyone is aware of the window today. Itís unfortunate but itís our current reality. I doubt we will get the AW in until after the rescheduled Wednesday update. If we try to rush it, more chaos could result.

Yeah I'd say wait until it cools down. Don't want everything deleted again. And the results of the AW could be deleted
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| May 28, 2018, 3:03 pm
Whatever happens it's highly likely something will get deleted. There's two timelines now, one including a few intermittent days on the new (failed) server, and the one we're having right now and tomorrow back on the old server. It's almost beyond imagination that anyone involved with this will want to attempt a merge, so something will be getting nuked.

Anyone got a spare flux capacitor?

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| May 28, 2018, 3:33 pm
Even if the site does stabilize (and I'm not holding my breath on that one), I don't think we can just proceed as if nothing happened. Folks who posted category MOCs on Friday or Saturday before the huge meltdown are now at a huge disadvantage. Here's why:

(1) As some have noted already, the delay of the AW negated the speed advantage those players should have enjoyed, especially on the difficult, high benefit CATs, like the Space Program. But this disadvantage pales in comparison to the next one.

(2) Many of the MOCs posted on Friday and Saturday had already received a significant number of likes - 10, 15, in some cases more than 20. When the MOCs were wiped out with the site reset, so were the likes, and they are likely to be gone permanently. Why? Because how likely is it that someone will revisit a MOC that they think they have already liked and commented on. I am unlikely to waste my time going back to MOC that I visited on Friday or Saturday and non-players are even less likely to revisit a MOC.

This is going to sound drastic, but I think the only fair thing that can be done is to void the specs for CATs 6, 9, 12, and 15, and come up with new specs for those CATs as soon as is reasonably possible.

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| May 28, 2018, 3:55 pm
Nope, but I can offer a Heisenberg compensator
Quoting Digital Dreams

Anyone got a spare flux capacitor?


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| May 28, 2018, 4:01 pm
Quoting Mark B.
Even if the site does stabilize (and I'm not holding my breath on that one), I don't think we can just proceed as if nothing happened. Folks who posted category MOCs on Friday or Saturday before the huge meltdown are now at a huge disadvantage. Here's why:

(1) As some have noted already, the delay of the AW negated the speed advantage those players should have enjoyed, especially on the difficult, high benefit CATs, like the Space Program. But this disadvantage pales in comparison to the next one.

(2) Many of the MOCs posted on Friday and Saturday had already received a significant number of likes - 10, 15, in some cases more than 20. When the MOCs were wiped out with the site reset, so were the likes, and they are likely to be gone permanently. Why? Because how likely is it that someone will revisit a MOC that they think they have already liked and commented on. I am unlikely to waste my time going back to MOC that I visited on Friday or Saturday and non-players are even less likely to revisit a MOC.

This is going to sound drastic, but I think the only fair thing that can be done is to void the specs for CATs 6, 9, 12, and 15, and come up with new specs for those CATs as soon as is reasonably possible.

Thats a bit to drastic. Id say do what Patrick said. Build challenge! Or a new extra Cat. Both would be better then voiding cats
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| May 28, 2018, 4:02 pm
While you have some valid points, Mark, I think voiding the new CATs is a little too drastic. If they were voided, youíd be voiding hours of peopleís lives as well. Many of us have spent hours already building for the new specs. To void the specs would be to waste those hours. Granted, any time spent building with LEGO is not a waste, but you get the point.

Honestly, if someone said that the new CATs are now void, after Iíve spent days building for them, not only would I be annoyed, but I would have zero motivation to build for the brand new CATs. Iím sure others would feel the same.
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| May 28, 2018, 4:06 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
While you have some valid points, Mark, I think voiding the new CATs is a little too drastic. If they were voided, youíd be voiding hours of peopleís lives as well. Many of us have spent hours already building for the new specs. To void the specs would be to waste those hours. Granted, any time spent building with LEGO is not a waste, but you get the point.

Honestly, if someone said that the new CATs are now void, after Iíve spent days building for them, not only would I be annoyed, but I would have zero motivation to build for the brand new CATs. Iím sure others would feel the same.

Another aspect I just realized is, what if we do that, Void them. Post the new cats, people make them, Then it gets wiped again. Do we void all cats again and again until it is stable? You have good points, but I think its a bit to damaging
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| May 28, 2018, 4:08 pm
I think we can get the likes again. We'll see. If the DAS wants to make speed fair, they could issue a declaration that builds made from now until our AW can finally happen won't help MILPO. But they'd have to keep an eye out as people reupload MOCs to remember which ones where posted before.

Most likely the players will have to live with it, though. It might mean I'll die. At this point, I don't care very much. I'm seeing that the Aircraft Carrier is a category I'll only get to do if I do some miracle surviving, and with MOCpages so dead set against ever giving me a chance, I'm not in spirits really.
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| May 28, 2018, 4:13 pm
Quoting General Gunn ~
Thats a bit to drastic. Id say do what Patrick said. Build challenge! Or a new extra Cat. Both would be better then voiding cats


They have to be voided, because there is no other way to compensate for the lost likes. Player A could post a new drone now and get the full number of likes he would normally get. Player B, who posted his drone earlier, garnered 18 likes, and now lost that MOC can re-post it, but he is very, very unlikely to get any but a small fraction of those original likes back, so he will have to draw his likes from a much smaller potential pool of visitors.
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| May 28, 2018, 4:13 pm
It's just possible our wiped MOCs will get restored. If not, and we have to post them again, how about a flat MILPO boost for every wiped MOC? Nothing too substantial, between 5-10. Hopefully that would roughly account for like-rs who don't come back to like it again, and we rely on people being public spirited for the rest.
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| May 28, 2018, 4:16 pm
There are simpler ways to even this nonsense somewhat; like only counting builds that were posted prior to Friday/Saturday for the next aw. Granted, it doesn't do s.it to fix the likes issue, but I'd honestly be unwilling to build another round of specs.
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| May 28, 2018, 4:17 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
While you have some valid points, Mark, I think voiding the new CATs is a little too drastic. If they were voided, youíd be voiding hours of peopleís lives as well. Many of us have spent hours already building for the new specs. To void the specs would be to waste those hours. Granted, any time spent building with LEGO is not a waste, but you get the point.

Honestly, if someone said that the new CATs are now void, after Iíve spent days building for them, not only would I be annoyed, but I would have zero motivation to build for the brand new CATs. Iím sure others would feel the same.

I think the complete opposite: If the CATs don't get voided, I'll have very little motivation for continuing with DA3. The arbitrariness of the loss of likes, coupled with the already ridiculous arbitrariness of the first-come, first-served AW system, means that skill, in either MOC building or alliance building, will have very little to do with the outcome.
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| May 28, 2018, 4:18 pm
This is a game of risk. Think of MOCpages as our battleground. A treacherous field that we all must traverse. Some will succeed. Others will not.
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| May 28, 2018, 4:18 pm
Quoting Mark B.
I think the complete opposite: If the CATs don't get voided, I'll have very little motivation for continuing with DA3. The arbitrariness of the loss of likes, coupled with the already ridiculous arbitrariness of the first-come, first-served AW system, means that skill, in either MOC building or alliance building, will have very little to do with the outcome.

As I have learned from others, this is a war game. War is dirty.
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| May 28, 2018, 4:19 pm
Quoting Stuart Lucas
It's just possible our wiped MOCs will get restored. If not, and we have to post them again, how about a flat MILPO boost for every wiped MOC? Nothing too substantial, between 5-10. Hopefully that would roughly account for like-rs who don't come back to like it again, and we rely on people being public spirited for the rest.


This is the dum8est thing they've done really; the site should have stayed down until the new maintenance, and they should have moved the updated one, not get it back to the old version and have 2 on their hands. Now we have no idea which one will be moved on the new servers.
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| May 28, 2018, 4:19 pm
Quoting P. Andrei
There are simpler ways to even this nonsense somewhat; like only counting builds that were posted prior to Friday/Saturday for the next aw. Granted, it doesn't do s.it to fix the likes issue, but I'd honestly be unwilling to build another round of specs.

Doesn't this give an even bigger disadvantage to those who got wiped? Please explain the logic here
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| May 28, 2018, 4:21 pm
Quoting General Gunn ~
Doesn't this give an even bigger disadvantage to those who got wiped? Please explain the logic here


How would it be a disadvantage? Those who built them last week get to use them, the others don't.
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| May 28, 2018, 4:24 pm
Quoting P. Andrei

How would it be a disadvantage? Those who built them last week get to use them, the others don't.

I think I misread it.
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| May 28, 2018, 4:25 pm
Quoting P. Andrei
This is the dum8est thing they've done really; the site should have stayed down until the new maintenance, and they should have moved the updated one, not get it back to the old version and have 2 on their hands. Now we have no idea which one will be moved on the new servers.
Totally. The only thing worse than what has been done is the lack of useful information about what is being done. Decisive @rse-up.

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| May 28, 2018, 4:26 pm
Quoting P. Andrei

How would it be a disadvantage? Those who built them last week get to use them, the others don't.

What about those who had builds ready to be posted, but could not post them because of MOCpagesís instability?
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| May 28, 2018, 4:26 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
What about those who had builds ready to be posted, but could not post them because of MOCpagesís instability?


You were here asking questions. :P
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| May 28, 2018, 4:28 pm
Quoting Stuart Lucas
It's just possible our wiped MOCs will get restored. If not, and we have to post them again, how about a flat MILPO boost for every wiped MOC? Nothing too substantial, between 5-10. Hopefully that would roughly account for like-rs who don't come back to like it again, and we rely on people being public spirited for the rest.

This is the best suggestion so far. Its the least damaging
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| May 28, 2018, 4:30 pm
Quoting P. Andrei

You were here asking questions. :P

I didnít post, because the few times that MOCpages was online I did not have the time, plus no one was active, and MOCpages was completely unstable.

How was I to know that this would happen?
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| May 28, 2018, 4:32 pm
Quoting P. Andrei
There are simpler ways to even this nonsense somewhat; like only counting builds that were posted prior to Friday/Saturday for the next aw. Granted, it doesn't do s.it to fix the likes issue, but I'd honestly be unwilling to build another round of specs.

I can see why you like this idea. ;)
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| May 28, 2018, 4:36 pm
Really guys, just suck it up and continue on. Its a war game, nasty things happen and you have to deal with them, not complain about them. You were the people that gave me the very same advice.

Do we need to do any kind of fix? Not really. You lost a few likes. There are worse things then losing likes, and everytime someone dislikes do we force the DAS to void specs, give extra likes, or ignore some people's builds for that AW? No

As I said before, suck it up and carry on.
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| May 28, 2018, 4:43 pm
Quoting Patrick Boyle
Okay, okay, okay. I have an idea I think will please everyone. Declare me the winner now. Isn't that simple, and fair!

*Puts googly eyes on hand*

"Yesh! Great idea Patrick! Lets do that!"

Thank you! Legitimate Player. Here here!

"Harrumph!"

Genius. Pure genius. One slight fix, lets declare Catland as the winner!

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| May 28, 2018, 4:44 pm
Moderation Land steals another comment.
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| May 28, 2018, 4:44 pm
Let me put it this way- While only counting creations posted before Friday does make some sense, it still not very fair. You might think, ďWell, if the AW actually happened on Friday, only those creations would be posted. Seems fair.Ē

That would be entirely false. IF the AW had actually happened Friday, many people would have scrambled to post their creations before the AW. But it did not happen, it was post-poned. Those people no longer needed to scramble to post their creations. So they waited for a more opportune time to post. And the AW kept getting pushed further out. And now suddenly, if they post, their creations no longer count.

How were they to know that if they waited, their creations wouldnít count?
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| May 28, 2018, 4:45 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Let me put it this way- While only counting creations posted before Friday does make some sense, it still not very fair. You might think, ďWell, if the AW actually happened on Friday, only those creations would be posted. Seems fair.Ē

That would be entirely false. IF the AW had actually happened Friday, many people would have scrambled to post their creations before the AW. But it did not happen, it was post-poned. Those people no longer needed to scramble to post their creations. So they waited for a more opportune time to post. And the AW kept getting pushed further out. And now suddenly, if they post, their creations no longer count.

How were they to know that if they waited, their creations wouldnít count?

This is yet another argument for voiding the new CAT specs, and resetting them next week or the week after.
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| May 28, 2018, 4:49 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Let me put it this way- While only counting creations posted before Friday does make some sense, it still not very fair. You might think, ďWell, if the AW actually happened on Friday, only those creations would be posted. Seems fair.Ē

That would be entirely false. IF the AW had actually happened Friday, many people would have scrambled to post their creations before the AW. But it did not happen, it was post-poned. Those people no longer needed to scramble to post their creations. So they waited for a more opportune time to post. And the AW kept getting pushed further out. And now suddenly, if they post, their creations no longer count.

How were they to know that if they waited, their creations wouldnít count?

One way or the other, the only fair solution is go back in time and fix MOCpages for last Friday. It's just a matter of what's the closest to fair for the people who most deserve to have it fair? And anyways, even though it's not fair probably there will be no 'solution' just an order to keep going. We'll see what the DAS says.
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| May 28, 2018, 4:52 pm
To sum up my comment in moderation:

The DAS should do nothing, and that you all should stop complaining.


(I give reasons why they should do nothing)
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| May 28, 2018, 4:54 pm
*drops crate of tomatoes*
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| May 28, 2018, 5:22 pm
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Quoting Mark B.
This is yet another argument for voiding the new CAT specs, and resetting them next week or the week after.

This doesn't happen often, but I find myself in complete agreement with General Gunn. Whatever happens, it will be unfair for someone. Stuart's idea has some merit but the categories will not be voided. That is grossly unfair to the people who've built for them and the mocs may yet resurface.
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| May 28, 2018, 5:23 pm
Time Machine; not only the perfect solution to this b@llsup, but if the DAS are feeling wicked, probably a future category too.
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| May 28, 2018, 5:24 pm
Quoting Pico van Grootveld
*drops crate of tomatoes*

*flock of Sqwaa birds attack tomatoes*
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| May 28, 2018, 5:25 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Digital Dreams
Time Machine; not only the perfect solution to this b@llsup, but if the DAS are feeling wicked, probably a future category too.

The DAS are always feeling wicked.
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| May 28, 2018, 5:28 pm
Quoting Nick Barrett
This doesn't happen often, but I find myself in complete agreement with General Gunn. Whatever happens, it will be unfair for someone. Stuart's idea has some merit but the categories will not be voided. That is grossly unfair to the people who've built for them and the mocs may yet resurface.

As long as the deleted builds are allowed to be resubmitted if they don't come back, I'm fine with that.

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| May 28, 2018, 5:29 pm
Quoting Nick Barrett
This doesn't happen often, but I find myself in complete agreement with General Gunn.

*faints*

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| May 28, 2018, 5:29 pm
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Quoting Sam Sanister
As long as the deleted builds are allowed to be resubmitted if they don't come back, I'm fine with that.

They would be, it's only fair.
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| May 28, 2018, 5:32 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
I didnít post, because the few times that MOCpages was online I did not have the time, plus no one was active, and MOCpages was completely unstable.

How was I to know that this would happen?


Nobody knew in advance there will be no aw, it was called off 2-3 hours before every time. The part you keep bringing up about this being a dirty war game applies to you as well. It's a simple fact that this crashes were an advantage to some players and f'ed the ones that built and posted last week.

As far as I'm concerned, the game's ruined and I don't much care what happens further on; just want to see it to the end. But a bit of balancing should be done somehow.

Either way, it's up to the DAS to decide. I've nothing more to say on this subject.
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| May 28, 2018, 5:37 pm
Quoting Nick Barrett
This doesn't happen often, but I find myself in complete agreement with General Gunn. Whatever happens, it will be unfair for someone. Stuart's idea has some merit but the categories will not be voided. That is grossly unfair to the people who've built for them and the mocs may yet resurface.

Nick, did you read my original post? My point was that voiding the MOCs is necessary to protect the folks who had already built and posted them - just the opposite of what you state. Perhaps the MOCs will resurface. If they do, though, it's possible that folks who post MOCs in the interim might somehow get slighted, since the site might do another complete reset.
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| May 28, 2018, 5:38 pm
So, do you think there will be anything done? Or shall we all sit back in our recliners and watch the chaos unfold?


Daniel H: My agents are everywhere!
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| May 28, 2018, 5:42 pm
Quoting P. Andrei

Nobody knew in advance there will be no aw, it was called off 2-3 hours before every time. The part you keep bringing up about this being a dirty war game applies to you as well. It's a simple fact that this crashes were an advantage to some players and f'ed the ones that built and posted last week.


See my second comment for my reasoning.

Quoting P. Andrei
As far as I'm concerned, the game's ruined and I don't much care what happens further on; just want to see it to the end. But a bit of balancing should be done somehow.

Either way, it's up to the DAS to decide. I've nothing more to say on this subject.

Same here, I don't care too much any more.
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| May 28, 2018, 5:43 pm
Quoting Patrick Boyle
Okay, okay, okay. I have an idea I think will please everyone. Declare me the winner now. Isn't that simple, and fair!

*Puts googly eyes on hand*

"Yesh! Great idea Patrick! Lets do that!"

Thank you! Legitimate Player. Here here!

"Harrumph!"

I'm quite prepared to see you take over D. No one else there cares, you see, so it should be easy for you!
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| May 28, 2018, 5:54 pm
Quoting Mark B.
Nick, did you read my original post? My point was that voiding the MOCs is necessary to protect the folks who had already built and posted them - just the opposite of what you state. Perhaps the MOCs will resurface. If they do, though, it's possible that folks who post MOCs in the interim might somehow get slighted, since the site might do another complete reset.


Or, hear me out; You use the continued downtime to build more, better MOCs, and don't upload them until MOCpages's problems have been sorted out.
There's not going to be an AW for a few days, that's long enough to rebuild a MOC.

Whether or not the MOCs come back, you'd have a *new* MOC ready to be posted. This fixes the problem you have of "people aren't likely to revisit a reupload of an older MOC".

You aren't a stranger to rebuilding a CAT in an attempt to get more likes; this is no different.
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| May 28, 2018, 6:11 pm
Gotta love the old girl hey?

To be honest, I'm not sure which direction can realistically be taken here. Voiding all the new CAT's seems a tad extreme in my eyes, but I also see that those that initially posted would have lost their speed advantage.

I think we'll have to wait and see if the updated servers on the 30th fixes anything.


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| May 28, 2018, 6:15 pm
Quoting Sam Sanister

Or, hear me out; You use the continued downtime to build more, better MOCs, and don't upload them until MOCpages's problems have been sorted out.
There's not going to be an AW for a few days, that's long enough to rebuild a MOC.

Whether or not the MOCs come back, you'd have a *new* MOC ready to be posted. This fixes the problem you have of "people aren't likely to revisit a reupload of an older MOC".

You aren't a stranger to rebuilding a CAT in an attempt to get more likes; this is no different.


So, you're suggesting that in order to get same (actually, probably less) consideration as someone who was slow to build a MOC, a fast builder should come up with a completely new and better idea and spend time building a new MOC. That sounds fair.


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| May 28, 2018, 6:40 pm
Quoting Mark B.

So, you're suggesting that in order to get same (actually, probably less) consideration as someone who was slow to build a MOC, a fast builder should come up with a completely new and better idea and spend time building a new MOC. That sounds fair.


How is that any different than when MOCpages is perfectly functional?
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| May 28, 2018, 6:46 pm
Quoting Sam Sanister
How is that any different than when MOCpages is perfectly functional?
MOCpages. Perfectly functional? Hmmmmm....

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| May 28, 2018, 6:49 pm
Quoting Sam Sanister
How is that any different than when MOCpages is perfectly functional?

Because the fast builder has already built a perfectly good MOC in the category, and you are suggesting that he build another just to achieve parity.
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| May 28, 2018, 6:50 pm
Honestly guys, this argument is pointless. No matter what, someone is gonna end up on top. It's a war game. It's not going to be perfectly fair.
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| May 28, 2018, 6:56 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Honestly guys, this argument is pointless. No matter what, someone is gonna end up on top. It's a war game. It's not going to be perfectly fair.

I'm not complaining about anything, actually.
These delays are working out for me; my procrastination and inability to find that one part I need, despite hours of searching is really slowing down my progress.
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| May 28, 2018, 7:07 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Honestly guys, this argument is pointless. No matter what, someone is gonna end up on top. It's a war game. It's not going to be perfectly fair.

I think most people who joined the game assumed that there would be some semblance of fairness. It"s a game, after all, not anything close to real war. I agree, though, there is little point to continuing the conversation. The DAS is going to do whatever works best for them.
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| May 28, 2018, 7:41 pm
Quoting Mark B.
I think most people who joined the game assumed that there would be some semblance of fairness. It"s a game, after all, not anything close to real war. I agree, though, there is little point to continuing the conversation. The DAS is going to do whatever works best for them.
And unfortunately, a lot of it'll depend on what the state of the site is after the next update.

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| May 28, 2018, 7:45 pm
On a completely different note, does anyone know if LDD (not extended) only has parts in real colors?
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| May 28, 2018, 8:27 pm
Quoting General Gunn ~
So, do you think there will be anything done? Or shall we all sit back in our recliners and watch the chaos unfold?

It's certainly a more entertaining view. Wait a sec... Had to get another beer. That's the ticket!
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| May 28, 2018, 8:30 pm
It truly is F'ed up, but I look at it as if your fleet is lost at sea. You posted your mocs hoping for an advantage; however, mutha nature threw you a curve ball. It's almost a given here on MP, but not as insane as getting involved in a land war in Asia. And it was outside the theater of battle. They may show back up on radar, may be truckin' the Nimitz back in time, may be sunk completely, who knows and who'd bother speculating?

The only certainty is that the AW is imminent and the only thing that would be fair to everyone would be to carry on. The dice fall however they fall for everyone, we've just been given an ornery midget that keeps kicking us in the daddy bags while we're trying to roll. Adjusting rules and specs or negating them only adds to the maelstrom, and not in a good or fair way.

Plus, Keith puts those midgets to shame when it comes to veering off course just because of a little green water over the bow.

I know this destroys momentum and enthusiasm, but this happened in DA2. And it happened in DA as well. It has happened in the MocOlympics and the MOCathalon. It's global warming, man! The platform here is a joke, no one would argue that. I doubt even Kenney would disagree. But this game is better than this nut punchin' site deserves. And the greatest aspect is that it brings out the best in everyone to be able to adapt, overcome, improvise. To be dealt tomatoes and throw them ferociously back. The game is an uphill battle, it just got a little steeper. And rocky. Maybe a little icy too. But it's the same sad site for everyone, and we can use those dam firetrucks for traction.
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| May 28, 2018, 8:58 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
On a completely different note, does anyone know if LDD (not extended) only has parts in real colors?

If you build in the default, standard mode, the answer is generally yes, but I have found a few exceptions. The problem is that many of the newer parts are not available in standard mode, in any color, real or fictitious. The only way to access those parts is in Extended mode, and there you are on your own to check color availability, since Extended mode will allow any color for any part.
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| May 28, 2018, 9:33 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
It truly is F'ed up, but I look at it as if your fleet is lost at sea. You posted your mocs hoping for an advantage; however, mutha nature threw you a curve ball. It's almost a given here on MP, but not as insane as getting involved in a land war in Asia. And it was outside the theater of battle. They may show back up on radar, may be truckin' the Nimitz back in time, may be sunk completely, who knows and who'd bother speculating?

The only certainty is that the AW is imminent and the only thing that would be fair to everyone would be to carry on. The dice fall however they fall for everyone, we've just been given an ornery midget that keeps kicking us in the daddy bags while we're trying to roll. Adjusting rules and specs or negating them only adds to the maelstrom, and not in a good or fair way.

Plus, Keith puts those midgets to shame when it comes to veering off course just because of a little green water over the bow.

I know this destroys momentum and enthusiasm, but this happened in DA2. And it happened in DA as well. It has happened in the MocOlympics and the MOCathalon. It's global warming, man! The platform here is a joke, no one would argue that. I doubt even Kenney would disagree. But this game is better than this nut punchin' site deserves. And the greatest aspect is that it brings out the best in everyone to be able to adapt, overcome, improvise. To be dealt tomatoes and throw them ferociously back. The game is an uphill battle, it just got a little steeper. And rocky. Maybe a little icy too. But it's the same sad site for everyone, and we can use those dam firetrucks for traction.


I"d point out that changing the rules or voiding specs would be a perfect example of "adapting, improvising, and overcoming", but on the part of the DAS, in order to make the game work, rather than on the part of the players.

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