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Hello! I am just wonder whats up with the maintenance thing? Is Kenny coming back to help? Thanks
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| May 17, 2018, 4:42 pm
Oh the irony of the site crashing just a few days before the scheduled maintenance.

Do we know how long to expect the site to be down for? I have no plans, but it would be nice to have an estimate in case everyone starts asking questions and nobody has any answers if things shut down for longer than expected.
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| May 21, 2018, 5:57 pm
Quoting MCLegoboy !
Oh the irony of the site crashing just a few days before the scheduled maintenance.

Do we know how long to expect the site to be down for? I have no plans, but it would be nice to have an estimate in case everyone starts asking questions and nobody has any answers if things shut down for longer than expected.


According to the banner thing, about a day. But knowing the site, it could be anything.

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| May 21, 2018, 7:31 pm
I find it funny that we're all like "Sean has abandoned us!" and just when we give up hope and there's like 5 months of silence, we get this.

Does anybody know/can anybody confirm what's going on?
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| May 21, 2018, 8:49 pm
 Group moderator 
I have absolutely no idea what's going on, but hopefully this will be a smooth upgrade.
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| May 21, 2018, 8:53 pm
Quoting Sam K

According to the banner thing, about a day. But knowing the site, it could be anything.

*facepalm*
I know I've seen the 6:00pm bit, but how did I not see the 8:00am?!
I should just stop trying... with everything.
Or maybe I just need to get some sleep.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:32 pm
Quoting MCLegoboy !
*facepalm*
I know I've seen the 6:00pm bit, but how did I not see the 8:00am?!
I should just stop trying... with everything.
Or maybe I just need to get some sleep.

Sleep? That’s so last year dude.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:33 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Sleep? That’s so last year dude.

I don't think I've ever seen a comment response so fast in my life. Maybe it's because my computer is running a little slow, but wow. Are we sure the site needs to be maintenanced?

Alright, no more chatter, this is the help group and I'm not being helpful.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:35 pm
Quoting MCLegoboy !
I don't think I've ever seen a comment response so fast in my life. Maybe it's because my computer is running a little slow, but wow. Are we sure the site needs to be maintenanced?

Alright, no more chatter, this is the help group and I'm not being helpful.

Haha! That’s funny, it was just chance I guess. Saw that you commented, read it and replied.
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| May 21, 2018, 9:37 pm
I'm just speculating here, but I don't think the maintenance did much good. The site crashed not long before the scheduled updates, the updates took longer than expected, there were intermittent crashes between the updates, and after the maintenance was complete, the site crashed again. We still have people hacking groups, the crashes are keeping activity at bay because the site can no longer be trusted to host contests, the uploaders still aren't calibrated to work properly without a bunch of working around them on our part, and there is some controversy with Sean now more than ever when it comes to MOCpages.

Sean recently blocked a user that I will leave unnamed (unless they want to come forward) on Twitter that was asking about MOCpages because there is no clear way to contact him when the site is down. This has made the user decide to remove all ties to the website because of this action. He's not a nobody, he's a very well known name across many different LEGO fan sites. I'm sure Sean receives a decent number of messages through Twitter, Facebook, and more about MOCpages when it is not functioning, but blocking someone that was not being belligerent? We need clear answers.

I know that MOCpages is a side project, Sean is a busy artist, but if you have enough time to block someone on social media, you have enough time to reaffirm our faith in the site by letting us know what has happened. Since he is well known as the creator of the site, he gained followers for more than just art, and the message would be relayed to those that aren't following him but are fans of MOCpages. There's even a MOCpages account for Facebook, but it hasn't been updated in forever, sadly, much like the site. Any updates or changes from these last few updates are not noticeable. Send out an email stating what the changes are, put out a call for those with coding experience and let an intern handle interviews while he's off making art and pull him aside for the final pick, I don't know, but a clear line of communication needs to be made.

This may call for new leadership that is not solely in the hands of Sean. We need someone that is specifically tech savvy whose sole purpose in a relationship with Sean is to keep MOCpages running. I don't know how much work goes into running Brickset, but it feels like something that is minimally crewed. It's a very different site, but they seem to be making it work. Grab the people that have attempted making MOC sharing websites with a modicum of success. I never had the pleasure of testing out Brickly since I don't have an iPhone, but before it was sold to BrickLink, it seemed like it was going to be quite the success, and the reason they made it was because they didn't like Flickr's system, and they didn't have a safe place to fall back on because MOCpages hasn't been cutting it.

I personally am not asking for a complete overhaul of the site in terms of layout, we're not Flickr, but some better functionality is needed. We've gone over the list a million times, but we need a better uploader, we need better security on the groups, we need a mobile device interface so that the site works for anyone that visits no matter how they visit, and we need to have been doing that since the last major update that brought about the fancy uploader.

I'm one of the biggest advocates for MOCpages, but in the past couple years, I too have been losing faith in it. I don't like Flickr's layout, and I don't have a smart device that would help me use the alternatives that are still not as good as they could be because they required me to have one. Ask a number of people on Flickr and they will say that MOCpages has the advantage on layout for MOCs and especially for telling stories, but Flickr works consistently. People share extra images on private mode there, or link to Brickshelf, and that just holds images as far as I understand it. Nobody uses the groups on Flickr, and comments are not that great either. It's all about the favorite, the quick acknowledgement that your thing has [some] value, but here, it encourages more conversation. You don't need 20 pages to share a MOC, you just need the 1 that can hold 20 images. It's great! And it's not great that the site has been abandoned, not only by highly active fans, but also seemingly Sean.

I don't want to speak ill of him, but we just need something to put our trust in. Unfortunately, the only way to get his attention these days is to cause a ruckus. Risque MOCs, spamming creations with likes, abusing the system, it's all that seems to be able to get his attention these days, even for five minutes, and it still takes too long to get a response. Nobody is asking for him to be active 24/7 but if we can't even get a proper response within a day or two when there is a substantial issue such as the website being down, how can we expect him to follow through on making the site better. If he doesn't have the time, we understand, but there is nobody that can be trusted with the technological knowhow to run and work on the site while he's away? We're not even asking for them to sit around all day and cater to our every whim, but something needs to be done.
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| June 9, 2018, 2:26 pm
Quoting MCLegoboy !
...

+100

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| June 9, 2018, 2:43 pm
Quoting Seaman SPb
+100

Seconded!
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| June 9, 2018, 2:50 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Seconded!

Thirdeded
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| June 9, 2018, 2:52 pm
@MCLegoboy You have to be the most levelheaded champion for Mocpages ever, and your resolve not to badmouth Kenney is admirable.

However,

As you said, the only way to get any sort of action from him is to cause a ruckus. So, to the absentee landlord ignoring these pages and all of us trying to keep this line of revenue open for him, I call upon him to just get in here and say something to convince us to remain. He's already alienated just about everyone in the online community by his brutal indifference, I want some communication open to prevent any further disenfranchisement.

Is it really so unreasonable to ask for a basic response? Just a simple show of courtesy and respect for those of us truly thankful for his affording us the ability to be a part of something bigger than all of us combined. I think if he were a true artist, he would understand the value of having many eyes on a subject and the feedback necessary to improve. This brutal indifference isn't progression, it's arrogance and ignorance.
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| June 9, 2018, 3:18 pm
I agree to that motion
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| June 9, 2018, 3:25 pm
It is a shame just how uninvolved Sean is with the community. The twitter blocking incident reminds me of something else. When he does appear, it's just to promote his arts which is fair enough. But, and here's the kicker, on his last upload, there were a few comments asking him about what was going on with the 'pages. He deleted said comments. No response, just poof! Deleted.

I think it's fair to say, at this point, he has abandoned us. He does not appear to show any interest in fixing the site, which is a shame, 'cos this site is how a lot of folks were introduced to the larger Lego community. I'm not sure what the 'updates' were doing, but, as someone above said (I'd name them if not for this blasted commenting system) they don't seem to have done anything. Out of interest, who else has power over the servers? If it's no one, does that mean the update notification was a lie?

Anyway, I seem to have gone off topic. I know I'm not exactly an active member, having migrated, like many did, to Flickr many years ago, but I thought I'd weigh in. What we really need is someone to run the site who is actually enthusiastic about it, and cares about its vibrant community.
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| June 9, 2018, 4:30 pm
I am sure you have all thought this but why don't we MAKE our own site?
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| June 10, 2018, 12:02 am
Quoting Ivan Wanderer of the wasteland
I am sure you have all thought this but why don't we MAKE our own site?

It ain't that easy. I intern in a Website development company, its craazy complex to make a site like this
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| June 10, 2018, 1:04 am
Quoting General Gunn ~
It ain't that easy. I intern in a Website development company, its craazy complex to make a site like this

Would it be worth the effort and time someone would need to put in it?
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| June 10, 2018, 4:19 am
There is a Russian site similar to MP. It is also possible to create separate pages to describe LEGO creations. It is also not technically perfect. But perhaps his administrative more adequate. Since the site is not very popular, its owners will probably be interested in new users and content. www.doublebrick.ru
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| June 10, 2018, 4:23 am
Quoting Ivan Wanderer of the wasteland
Would it be worth the effort and time someone would need to put in it?

Since there is a skeleton to work off of, I think it would be. We just need to rebuild muscle. Unfortunately, I don't know enough people that have the technological knowhow and the time to do it.
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| June 10, 2018, 5:51 am
Quoting Sam K
It is a shame just how uninvolved Sean is with the community. The twitter blocking incident reminds me of something else. When he does appear, it's just to promote his arts which is fair enough. But, and here's the kicker, on his last upload, there were a few comments asking him about what was going on with the 'pages. He deleted said comments. No response, just poof! Deleted.

I pity whoever finds him in public and asks about the site.
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| June 10, 2018, 5:54 am
Quoting MCLegoboy !
I pity whoever finds him in public and asks about the site.

In all seriousness, I wonder how that would go? Would he actively ignore the question? answer the question? Glitch out and start saying "Sean.exe is experiencing a problem"?
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| June 10, 2018, 8:26 am
I think a better option would be for someone, or several, to just buy the site from Sean. Take the headache off his hands and go about to fixing it, promoting it, generating revenue from it with better adverts that don't involve Trident gum or Russian mail order brides, and rebuilding the community that seems a bit fractured, wandering, and resentful of this site and its failure of an owner. That gesture and transaction would go a VERY long way in repairing Sean's relationship in this community and may actually get us to buying whatever he's hocking our way when he pops in every eight months or so for his annual self serving posts.

This of course would require him to actually talk, and so far he doesn't seem to possess that basic human capacity.
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| June 10, 2018, 10:51 am
So i checked the activity, good Mocs get upto 350 views and upto 25 likes. That is the state of this
Site.....
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| June 15, 2018, 4:14 pm
After 1 week of the site being shut down...

Woah. At least we had the bumper if that's anything to get excited about.
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| June 27, 2018, 5:33 pm
Quoting MCLegoboy !
After 1 week of the site being shut down...

Woah. At least we had the bumper if that's anything to get excited about.

I figured Kenny had pulled the plug.
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| June 27, 2018, 5:56 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
I figured Kenny had pulled the plug.

I didn't even notice the site went down, I am all focused on the Biocup! :D
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| June 27, 2018, 6:03 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
I figured Kenny had pulled the plug.

I figured the same -- which shows how little faith I have in MOCpages as a MOC-sharing platform these days.

Do we know that any steps were actually taken to improve stability or address chronic issues during this long downtime? Of couse not -- the content providers are always left in the dark around here.

My willingness to invest time and effort in new pages here is all but gone. Maybe it's time to move all my content elsewhere.
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| June 28, 2018, 1:30 am
I suspect the length of this recent outage may have been due to the exhibitions Sean is doing at the moment, with one just recently started in China. It may have taken him longer than usual to notice the server needed a kick, or he may have actually been in China and unwilling to log into the ftp server or admin control panel from an untrusted location until he got back home.
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| June 28, 2018, 6:20 am
Quoting Digital Dreams
I suspect the length of this recent outage may have been due to the exhibitions Sean is doing at the moment, with one just recently started in China. It may have taken him longer than usual to notice the server needed a kick, or he may have actually been in China and unwilling to log into the ftp server or admin control panel from an untrusted location until he got back home.

Hmm, that would presume that he actually cares and feels invested in this site, and I have yet to see any indication of his commitment here. And in fact, that explanation is more suggestive of his desertion from the responsibilities to Mocpages in favor of his own gains. With all the unprecedented hiccups over the past two months, even a simple word of reassurance would go a very long way. Like Jeremy, I too do not feel that it's worth the time or effort to post mocs here if it means that the site hasn't been fixed and is subject to a consistent volley of outages while the only one able to affect changes seems resentful for having created this community.

I would suggest that everyone here copy everything they want to keep ASAP before Sean's lack of attention finally does this sad site in and it's all lost forever.

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| June 28, 2018, 10:15 am
I understand every single one regarding the unprecedented downtimes etc. of Mocpages. But my personal reaction is not the same. If the page is down (which is still sad) I do other things and check back from time to time till it's up again. And then I continue with Mocpages related things like commenting, rating, watching nice creations and enjoy them. I don't see that it's necessary to leave the site and move to another. We still have a community here and everyone should think twice about leaving. Maybe it's the better idea doing it my way. I'm still active here and have a second account on Flickr. So I'm able to be in contact with the community here and with the community (contains a lot of people who left mocpages) there. I would be very sad when this community here is breaking away completely.
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| June 28, 2018, 11:22 am
Quoting Sven ;o)
I understand every single one regarding the unprecedented downtimes etc. of Mocpages. But my personal reaction is not the same. If the page is down (which is still sad) I do other things and check back from time to time till it's up again. And then I continue with Mocpages related things like commenting, rating, watching nice creations and enjoy them. I don't see that it's necessary to leave the site and move to another. We still have a community here and everyone should think twice about leaving. Maybe it's the better idea doing it my way. I'm still active here and have a second account on Flickr. So I'm able to be in contact with the community here and with the community (contains a lot of people who left mocpages) there. I would be very sad when this community here is breaking away completely.

I can appreciate your sentiment, Sven. It is exactly what all of us have been doing to date, sticking it out and trying to push the community.

However, you are not taking into account that it is the site that is actually leaving us. The community is there and always will be. We are not leaving it. But when Mocpages is as broken as it is, down as much as it has been over the past three months, has not seen any upgrades over the past several years, and has only one person capable of fixing it that will not lift a finger to do so, then I'm not sure how much time should be invested by any of us in playing in a clubhouse when there is no clubhouse to play in.

Those of us that still hold out hope for whatever masochistic reason are indeed still here. But I feel that asking us to continue on in this dilapidated sty is pointless. Yes, we can do other things, we can cruise Flickr, we can actually lead lives outside this sad place, and we can check back occasionally here and there if and when the site isn't down. But why? The community? We take that with us everywhere we go. Mocpages does not dictate the community, it is merely the place and it is in pathetic shape. It is a fallacy to interchange the two. If the church burns down, the congregation is not lost; but they will need a hew home in which to commune.
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| June 30, 2018, 12:46 am
Quoting Sven ;o)
We still have a community here and everyone should think twice about leaving.... I would be very sad when this community here is breaking away completely.


Sven, the good friends I've made on MOCpages over the years are the =only= reasons I'm still here. You're of course among them.

Whether it's reaonable for me to continue putting time and effort into pages that could disappear from the web at any moment without warning is another matter. As you know, each of my pages involves hours of work.
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| June 30, 2018, 2:10 am
Quoting matt rowntRee
...generating revenue from it with better adverts that don't involve Trident gum or Russian mail order brides...

This of course would require him to actually talk, and so far he doesn't seem to possess that basic human capacity.

I'm on my 3rd Russian bride from ads on MOCpages. Big disappointment. They're just after my LEGO.

Agree, those of us who invest in MOCpages by providing the content would feel a lot better about that if we were treated like the stakeholders we are.
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| June 30, 2018, 2:21 am
Quoting Jeremy McCreary

That's great to hear my good friend and thank you very much! Highly appreciate your friendship. It's the same here. It's you among many other good friends I made here over the years. This page made it possible that I met Oran and his whole family in the States and I connect many many good memories with this page. All these things are the main reason why I still try to stay on Mocpages.

But I completely understand your point Jeremy and agree.

Ps: It's very sad that this page has so many downtimes atm...
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| June 30, 2018, 6:07 am
Quoting Sven ;o)
I understand every single one regarding the unprecedented downtimes etc. of Mocpages. But my personal reaction is not the same. If the page is down (which is still sad) I do other things and check back from time to time till it's up again. And then I continue with Mocpages related things like commenting, rating, watching nice creations and enjoy them. I don't see that it's necessary to leave the site and move to another. We still have a community here and everyone should think twice about leaving. Maybe it's the better idea doing it my way. I'm still active here and have a second account on Flickr. So I'm able to be in contact with the community here and with the community (contains a lot of people who left mocpages) there. I would be very sad when this community here is breaking away completely.

Putting up with a problem still is not the same as fixing it. I do the exact same thing you do, I visit when the site is working, and when it's not, I do other things. I have been far more patient than what is deserved, and I don't want to have the site flatline, but at some point, it is if there isn't any sign of help, and the sign appears to be off in the distance, ever shrinking until it is one with the horizon. And while your community might still be here, just about every other community has left, so it's not as enticing to stick around. If it weren't for the formatting when it comes to creation pages, I might have decided to leave long ago with everyone else, but no, I found a way to post MOCs here even after all the problems with the uploader and the outdated coding, but that won't work if there's not a site to come to. A fun community game was ruined because of the unreliability of the site. Plenty of communities have left for the same reason for their own contests and games and even just normal socializing. Even though they still have accounts here, they're not socializing here anymore because there's no reliability and they aren't going to put up with it, which is not unreasonable. I'll stick around until the site completely crashes, but I'm not going to make it a priority anymore unless things improve. I've reached my limit, and it's come five years later than most everyone else could stand.
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| June 30, 2018, 6:37 pm
I'm pretty much in agreement with both Sven and MC Legoboy. I have had enough too and recently made a Flickr-profile, but i will still keep posting here until this site disappears. When i do have something to post, that is :-D
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| July 1, 2018, 3:30 am
Ok. So now we have three mods back, but lots of threads deleted. The useful ones too, where people were trying to fix the problems. Fascinating
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| July 1, 2018, 6:34 pm
Quoting Sam K
Ok. So now we have three mods back, but lots of threads deleted. The useful ones too, where people were trying to fix the problems. Fascinating

That it is.
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| July 1, 2018, 6:39 pm
Quoting Sam K
Ok. So now we have three mods back, but lots of threads deleted. The useful ones too, where people were trying to fix the problems. Fascinating

I have some more colorful metaphors to "fascinating" if you'd like to hear them. ;)
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| July 1, 2018, 6:54 pm
Quoting Sam K
Ok. So now we have three mods back, but lots of threads deleted. The useful ones too, where people were trying to fix the problems. Fascinating

You can delete threads? This is just golden
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| July 1, 2018, 7:04 pm
Deleting well ment critic is not what this site need.
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| July 1, 2018, 7:05 pm
Quoting Michiel Norp
Deleting well ment critic is not what this site need.

What this site needs is for Sean to give a [redacted], and man up and face the users of his site.
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| July 1, 2018, 7:06 pm
Quoting Michiel Norp
Deleting well ment critic is not what this site need.

Exactly. I wouldn't even mind at this point if Sean told us that he's left the site behind and moved on. At least it would be him telling us something.
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| July 1, 2018, 7:08 pm
Quoting Werewolff Studios
Exactly. I wouldn't even mind at this point if Sean told us that he's left the site behind and moved on. At least it would be him telling us something.

One word. One simple acknowledgement. One simple crumb for us peons. Is it really so much to ask for?
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| July 1, 2018, 7:10 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
One word. One simple acknowledgement. One simple crumb for us peons. Is it really so much to ask for?

As I've been trying for the past three weeks to get in ouch through his website (ever since DA3 went down), it may be the case. I understand that he and his team are busy, I really do, but setting aside two minutes to type a simple response...is it really too much to ask?
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| July 1, 2018, 7:18 pm
Quoting Werewolff Studios
As I've been trying for the past three weeks to get in ouch through his website (ever since DA3 went down), it may be the case. I understand that he and his team are busy, I really do, but setting aside two minutes to type a simple response...is it really too much to ask?

Well if the behaviour he's exhibited is anything to go on, apparently so. But yeah, he needs to at least say if he's truly abandoned us. But, knowing Sean, he'll upload another self-congratulatory post and delete anything that isn't praise.
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| July 1, 2018, 7:31 pm
The basic set up of MOCpages is the best way to show case Mocs, but this site needs some true updates. People are willing to help with this if they are given a fair change. What could be the reason not to go this direction? As I said earlier, silence will turn away even the people who care for this site and the Lego community in general
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| July 1, 2018, 7:52 pm
Oh, I just love this site’s insecurities. Just had a private chat group between myself and another friend get hacked, made public, and joined by someone.

Wish Sean would get off his hindquarters and do something.
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| July 2, 2018, 11:11 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Oh, I just love this site’s insecurities. Just had a private chat group between myself and another friend get hacked, made public, and joined by someone.

Wish Sean would get off his hindquarters and do something.

Yep, we all wish he would do something.
If you want a secure alternative to private messaging groups here, Discord is good. It is live chat as well.
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| July 2, 2018, 11:19 pm
 Group moderator 
Hey folks, sorry about everything lately. I've not been able to catch up on stuff this week yet, but I'll read through this thread tomorrow and also approve any MOCs and comments that have come into moderation.

Hope you all had a good Canada day and enjoy the upcoming Fourth of July, if either of those apply to you.
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| July 3, 2018, 12:12 am
And matt's comment was deleted... the thing is that we don't have a new home to go to. There is nothing structured like mocpages, I'd go to flickr but it isn't similar enough.
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| July 3, 2018, 12:16 am
Quoting Ivan Wanderer of the wasteland
And matt's comment was deleted... the thing is that we don't have a new home to go to. There is nothing structured like mocpages, I'd go to flickr but it isn't similar enough.

I don’t understand why it is this hard to type a comment, instead of spamming the delete button on things. Ugh.
But yes, we have no other place like mocpages, Flickr is the best option now but the community aspect there is pretty much non-existant.
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| July 3, 2018, 12:21 am
Quoting Tucker Marley
I don’t understand why it is this hard to type a comment, instead of spamming the delete button on things. Ugh.
But yes, we have no other place like mocpages, Flickr is the best option now but the community aspect there is pretty much non-existant.

TTV is good, but the community there is mostly bionicle
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| July 3, 2018, 7:49 am
Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
Hey folks, sorry about everything lately. I've not been able to catch up on stuff this week yet, but I'll read through this thread tomorrow and also approve any MOCs and comments that have come into moderation.

Hope you all had a good Canada day and enjoy the upcoming Fourth of July, if either of those apply to you.

Read what you can, most of it was deleted. Apparently a certain admin on this site felt it was more helpful than actually speaking.
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| July 3, 2018, 3:36 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
Read what you can, most of it was deleted. Apparently a certain admin on this site felt it was more helpful than actually speaking.

How are we sure its not the hacker?
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| July 3, 2018, 4:13 pm
Quoting Pontel Gunn
How are we sure its not the hacker?

How do we know “the hacker” wasn’t Sean Kenny?
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| July 3, 2018, 4:14 pm
Quoting Pontel Gunn
How are we sure its not the hacker?

It's not the usual pattern. it's...surprisingly moderate. The 'usual' hacker tends to hack descriptions, group titles etc. This one is surprisingly civilised, not doing anything overt, just silently removing conversations. If I'm entirely honest, these actions are more likely to be Sean, as the person (sorry, as I'm typing this I can't look at your name) above me has said.
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| July 3, 2018, 7:19 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Daniel H.
How do we know “the hacker” wasn’t Sean Kenny?


MOCpages - the thriller by M. Night Shyamalan.

But yeah, thanks for the tip on comments being less permanent than usual.
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| July 3, 2018, 7:45 pm
Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
Quoting Daniel H.
How do we know “the hacker” wasn’t Sean Kenny?


MOCpages - the thriller by M. Night Shyamalan.

But yeah, thanks for the tip on comments being less permanent than usual.

What kind of hacker deletes comments by someone engaging Sean to wake up? And then proceeds to remove them from the group? The motives are backwards.

But first things first, MCLegoboy was hacked and needs access to his homepage and account.
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| July 3, 2018, 8:01 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting matt rowntRee
What kind of hacker deletes comments by someone engaging Sean to wake up? And then proceeds to remove them from the group? The motives are backwards.

But first things first, MCLegoboy was hacked and needs access to his homepage and account.


Oh crikey, no kidding.

Alright, mostly caught up now, that's a huge problem. Unfortunately, it's not something I have power over - I can delete MOCs and accounts, but can't actually modify them in any other way.

I'm not sure the best way to contact Sean about this, I'll try the contact form.
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| July 3, 2018, 9:22 pm
Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist

Oh crikey, no kidding.

Alright, mostly caught up now, that's a huge problem. Unfortunately, it's not something I have power over - I can delete MOCs and accounts, but can't actually modify them in any other way.

I'm not sure the best way to contact Sean about this, I'll try the contact form.
The one on his website? Best of luck to you. I've been trying for the past three weeks, and so far nothing's come of it. It's honestly a real shame.

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| July 3, 2018, 10:00 pm
Someone could always hack MCLegoboy back into his account. I’m pretty sure that’s what happened when the “Moc Destroyers” hacked and stole City Creator’s account.
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| July 3, 2018, 10:02 pm
Quoting matt rowntRee
What kind of hacker deletes comments by someone engaging Sean to wake up? And then proceeds to remove them from the group? The motives are backwards.

Maybe that’s what they want you to think :O

In all seriousness, they could be trying to kill the site for whatever reason.

I’ve also noticed that there’s only one MOC in the “across MOCpages” section and it’s a joke-MOC.
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| July 3, 2018, 10:07 pm
Kenny gave his answer... by crashing the pages for ten minutes
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| July 3, 2018, 10:07 pm
Quoting Pontel Gunn
Kenny gave his answer... by crashing the pages for ten minutes

With how reliable the pages are it could just be a normal short crash.
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| July 3, 2018, 10:08 pm
Quoting Pontel Gunn
Kenny gave his answer... by crashing the pages for ten minutes

Yeah. I understand he’s busy but one comment informing us of the future of the site shouldn’t be too much trouble
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| July 3, 2018, 10:09 pm
Quoting Tucker Marley
With how reliable the pages are it could just be a normal short crash.

I have never seen a crash thaat short. Normally its a day or more
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| July 3, 2018, 10:16 pm
Quoting Pontel Gunn
I have never seen a crash thaat short. Normally its a day or more

True, it could simply be a crash though.
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| July 3, 2018, 10:19 pm
Quoting Pontel Gunn
I have never seen a crash thaat short. Normally its a day or more

Didn’t crash for me. Probably just internet issues. I highly doubt Sean is actively reading the conversation here, and I rather doubt he even cares enough to crash the ‘Pages for that short of a time.
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| July 3, 2018, 10:22 pm
Quoting Daniel H.
Didn’t crash for me. Probably just internet issues. I highly doubt Sean is actively reading the conversation here, and I rather doubt he even cares enough to crash the ‘Pages for that short of a time.

It crashed for me too.
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| July 3, 2018, 10:24 pm
Quoting Duck Paté
It crashed for me too.

Oh weird.

I doubt it was an intentional crash on Sean’s part though. Still, wouldn’t put it past him.
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| July 3, 2018, 10:26 pm
Alright, I guess it's time I broke silence. I have actually had control of my account since July 2nd. It's totally weird. My e-mail was returned back to my account by... someone. I was removed from this group but there is so much inactivity in all my other endeavors on MOCpages that MOCpages Help was still in recent enough activity that I could easily access it. I asked a few friends to keep quiet though because I was hacked, and I didn't want to get rehacked, or anyone else get hacked, which might well still happen. But I just want to ask everyone to stop requesting I be helped as I haven't needed it for more than that first day. It did put me in touch with LukeClarenceVan, who has a connection with Sean, so maybe some more action may take place, so I thank you guys for keeping the word spread around until he showed up. I doubt it will change much with Sean, but hey, the worst thing you can do is stop trying. Something in him has to give way eventually, right?
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| July 4, 2018, 5:25 am
Quoting MCLegoboy !
Alright, I guess it's time I broke silence. I have actually had control of my account since July 2nd. It's totally weird. My e-mail was returned back to my account by... someone. I was removed from this group but there is so much inactivity in all my other endeavors on MOCpages that MOCpages Help was still in recent enough activity that I could easily access it. I asked a few friends to keep quiet though because I was hacked, and I didn't want to get rehacked, or anyone else get hacked, which might well still happen. But I just want to ask everyone to stop requesting I be helped as I haven't needed it for more than that first day. It did put me in touch with LukeClarenceVan, who has a connection with Sean, so maybe some more action may take place, so I thank you guys for keeping the word spread around until he showed up. I doubt it will change much with Sean, but hey, the worst thing you can do is stop trying. Something in him has to give way eventually, right?

Even though we'e not really getting anywhere, it does seem like the gears are turning. In the wrong direction and going against eachother, but still. And glad to see you've regained control of your account :D
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| July 4, 2018, 6:22 am
The only thing left is nostalgia and the die hard loyalists - as sad as it is...

But before it dies, why not contact bricklink to host something similiar apart from brickly for microsoft. If the "respected" of Mocpages knock on their door,(or everybody writes them mail) they might find out that each moccer here is a bricklink buyer or potent of becoming one.

All it needs is a new name to not infringe anything, update the layout and tech. Bricklink is the only non TLG branch that has ressources for that.

Btw, their customer support is fast. And i found out their "MOC" department is dead aswell and put on ice. Perhaps they see the lost souls of this website to bring new life to their own empty "MOC" branch. That could be win win for all...


Safe journey ya all, whatever will happen here (or not) ;)
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| July 4, 2018, 8:27 pm
Quoting Ron Dayes
The only thing left is nostalgia and the die hard loyalists - as sad as it is...

But before it dies, why not contact bricklink to host something similiar apart from brickly for microsoft. If the "respected" of Mocpages knock on their door,(or everybody writes them mail) they might find out that each moccer here is a bricklink buyer or potent of becoming one.

All it needs is a new name to not infringe anything, update the layout and tech. Bricklink is the only non TLG branch that has ressources for that.

Btw, their customer support is fast. And i found out their "MOC" department is dead aswell and put on ice. Perhaps they see the lost souls of this website to bring new life to their own empty "MOC" branch. That could be win win for all...


Safe journey ya all, whatever will happen here (or not) ;)

THAT IS GENIUS! LITERALLY EVERYONE WOULD USE THAT!
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| July 5, 2018, 1:12 am
Quoting Ron Dayes
The only thing left is nostalgia and the die hard loyalists - as sad as it is...

But before it dies, why not contact bricklink to host something similiar apart from brickly for microsoft. If the "respected" of Mocpages knock on their door,(or everybody writes them mail) they might find out that each moccer here is a bricklink buyer or potent of becoming one.

All it needs is a new name to not infringe anything, update the layout and tech. Bricklink is the only non TLG branch that has ressources for that.

Btw, their customer support is fast. And i found out their "MOC" department is dead aswell and put on ice. Perhaps they see the lost souls of this website to bring new life to their own empty "MOC" branch. That could be win win for all...


Safe journey ya all, whatever will happen here (or not) ;)

That would definitely be great to see, I hope it will be real at some point.
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| July 5, 2018, 11:53 pm
Quoting Ivan Wanderer of the wasteland
THAT IS GENIUS! LITERALLY EVERYONE WOULD USE THAT!

http://www.moc-pages.com/moc.php/447960

I MADE A CREATION TO HELP MOVE MOCPAGES IF SUCCESFUL

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| July 6, 2018, 11:12 am
Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
Quoting Daniel H.
How do we know “the hacker” wasn’t Sean Kenny?

http://www.moc-pages.com/moc.php/447960

But yeah, thanks for the tip on comments being less permanent than usual.

id like to hear what you think! cheers, ron.
http://www.moc-pages.com/moc.php/447960
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| July 6, 2018, 11:13 am
Quoting MCLegoboy !
After 1 week of the site being shut down...

Woah. At least we had the bumper if that's anything to get excited about.


Id also like your input on this!
http://www.moc-pages.com/moc.php/447960
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| July 6, 2018, 11:17 am
Is there any way...any way at all...to get to Sean? To make him see what his absence has cost us? To get him back? This was such a wonderful website; it seems so wrong that it should die just because of a neglectful host.
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| July 6, 2018, 11:44 am
Quoting Minh-Kha N.
Is there any way...any way at all...to get to Sean? To make him see what his absence has cost us? To get him back? This was such a wonderful website; it seems so wrong that it should die just because of a neglectful host.

Nope. Last person who tried and to contact him got blocked on all social media sites, just to avoid talking.
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| July 6, 2018, 11:48 am
Many attempts have been made to contact him, but he ignores them all. Or returns to block users, delete threads that he doesn't like etc
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| July 6, 2018, 11:52 am
Oh, also, what are the ways to contact him?
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| July 6, 2018, 11:53 am
Quoting Minh-Kha N.
Oh, also, what are the ways to contact him?

From what I've gathered from other peoples attempts, the generic Facebook, twitter(?), Flickr (although that looks to be inactive). I've a theory about the 'advertise here' bit at the bottom of this site, but I've no idea where that goes. All we've managed to gleam from past attempts is that he is painfully ignorant of the harm he's done to this community by ignoring it.
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| July 6, 2018, 11:59 am
...well, the fact that you guys responded 4 minutes after I posted shows there's still a community here, small though it may be XD
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| July 6, 2018, 4:41 pm
Quoting Minh-Kha N.
...well, the fact that you guys responded 4 minutes after I posted shows there's still a community here, small though it may be XD

Yep, still a small community that occasionally checks in. I guess what little of us remain are all just clinging to the hope that someone will listen and make a difference
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| July 6, 2018, 4:43 pm
Quoting Sam K
Yep, still a small community that occasionally checks in. I guess what little of us remain are all just clinging to the hope that someone will listen and make a difference

Yep.
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| July 6, 2018, 5:01 pm
Alright, so I know a number of you are on Flickr in varying MOCpages related groups and discussions, but there is a new one that is solely centered on just MOCpages discussion and you all might like to see it.

https://www.flickr.com/groups/3717060@N25/
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| July 9, 2018, 4:48 am
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