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As you guys can see on the homepage, I've already started on some HTML for our group. That's just a start, though - we need so much more than that before we can go public and start inviting people. Here's a to-do list that we can work on, as well as a link to a group that we can use as a rough draft or work in progress:
http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/25476

- Hub logo. We're looking for an updated version of the red 1x1, similar to but recognizably different than the official MOCpages one. I have access to rudimentary image editing software, but not often, so I would really appreciate it if someone else would step up to handle that.
- Initial groups. We should decide which groups and organizations will start out represented on the Hub and make places accordingly.
- Members to invite. At some point, we need to start our invitation campaign, and it would be best to have names handy so that we can get as many people as possible in the initial rush.
- News items or articles. When we go public, we should have some pages ready to add to the news feed. Keep your eyes out and your minds open for worthy subjects to report on, both in your groups and beyond.
- Threads. Threads are easy to make; we just need to decide on our initial set.
- Rest of the homepage. Fairly straightforward, it just takes time. If anyone else has some HTML/CSS experience and would like to help, we can work out a division of the job.
- Group rules. So far, we don't have a formal draft of those. Might be useful.
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| October 19, 2015, 11:21 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
As you guys can see on the homepage, I've already started on some HTML for our group. That's just a start, though - we need so much more than that before we can go public and start inviting people. Here's a to-do list that we can work on, as well as a link to a group that we can use as a rough draft or work in progress:
http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/25476

- Hub logo. We're looking for an updated version of the red 1x1, similar to but recognizably different than the official MOCpages one. I have access to rudimentary image editing software, but not often, so I would really appreciate it if someone else would step up to handle that.
- Initial groups. We should decide which groups and organizations will start out represented on the Hub and make places accordingly.
- Members to invite. At some point, we need to start our invitation campaign, and it would be best to have names handy so that we can get as many people as possible in the initial rush.
- News items or articles. When we go public, we should have some pages ready to add to the news feed. Keep your eyes out and your minds open for worthy subjects to report on, both in your groups and beyond.
- Threads. Threads are easy to make; we just need to decide on our initial set.
- Rest of the homepage. Fairly straightforward, it just takes time. If anyone else has some HTML/CSS experience and would like to help, we can work out a division of the job.
- Group rules. So far, we don't have a formal draft of those. Might be useful.

You have my axe!

I can definitely help out with the logo. I will start to work on it right now and add my prototype versions of the logo later.
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| October 20, 2015, 7:16 am
 Group admin 
While I was creating a new version of the MOCpages brick, a new idea came up to my mind. In my opinion it fits the title "the United Groups of MOcpages" perfectly. To see how it will look like I uploaded the image as group photo fot this Hub Planning. I also tried to post it as larger image in the description, but somehow MOCpages won't accept flickr images anymore... :(

EDIT: I found another way and osted a larger image on our Hub Planning homepage.
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| October 20, 2015, 8:17 am
Quoting Michael Kringe
While I was creating a new version of the MOCpages brick, a new idea came up to my mind. In my opinion it fits the title "the United Groups of MOcpages" perfectly. To see how it will look like I uploaded the image as group photo fot this Hub Planning. I also tried to post it as larger image in the description, but somehow MOCpages won't accept flickr images anymore... :(

EDIT: I found another way and osted a larger image on our Hub Planning homepage.

The logo is awesome. Looking at it now, you haven't really changed the symbol of MOCpages, but rather added to it. The red 1x1 brick represents MOCpages itself(obvious enough), and the yellow and orange bricks seem to symbolize its members, its community. Yes, there is a sense of unity in the simplicity of those three bricks, and the different colors show how they aren't exactly the same. But like apples and oranges, they do have something in common. They're LEGO bricks. All these different groups have dedicated themselves to different aspects of LEGO, but all the same, what unites us are our bricks. We use the same, simple plastic pieces for completely different things. Our unity is our fascination with the LEGO brick.

I guess I've gone a bit deep with that, but hey, I was having a moment back there. :P Anyway, the only thing that looks to be missing from it is text. If we're really going to be calling this hub the United Groups of MOCpages, maybe you could put the letters U, G, and M on each brick. M on the red brick, and maybe U on the yellow one, and G on the orange? Well, those are my thoughts, at least. Awesome work, Michael! ;P
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| October 20, 2015, 10:35 am
Keep in mind that Sean Kenney is protective of his logo - it's possible that he'll ask that we change this. (He's done that before with groups that used similar logos to MOCpages's.) It is nice looking though, I'll give it that.
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| October 20, 2015, 11:07 am
Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
Keep in mind that Sean Kenney is protective of his logo - it's possible that he'll ask that we change this. (He's done that before with groups that used similar logos to MOCpages's.) It is nice looking though, I'll give it that.

Perhaps it'll be enough to make him notice the desperate conditions of his own site. ;P
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| October 20, 2015, 11:12 am
Quoting Armon Russ
Perhaps it'll be enough to make him notice the desperate conditions of his own site. ;P

Lol
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| October 20, 2015, 12:22 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Michael Kringe
While I was creating a new version of the MOCpages brick, a new idea came up to my mind. In my opinion it fits the title "the United Groups of MOcpages" perfectly. To see how it will look like I uploaded the image as group photo fot this Hub Planning. I also tried to post it as larger image in the description, but somehow MOCpages won't accept flickr images anymore... :(

EDIT: I found another way and osted a larger image on our Hub Planning homepage.

I agree with Luke in the fact it may be TOO similar to the real MOCpages logo, however, it does look very good and I do like it a lot.
--Blast--
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| October 20, 2015, 12:41 pm
 Group admin 
If it is too similar there's always the gold brick :P
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| October 20, 2015, 2:33 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Michael Kringe
While I was creating a new version of the MOCpages brick, a new idea came up to my mind. In my opinion it fits the title "the United Groups of MOcpages" perfectly. To see how it will look like I uploaded the image as group photo fot this Hub Planning. I also tried to post it as larger image in the description, but somehow MOCpages won't accept flickr images anymore... :(

EDIT: I found another way and osted a larger image on our Hub Planning homepage.

You just have to take off the last pair of tags to get a Flickr image to work: MOCpages doesn't like the <script> element. I like the current logo, but, yeah, we might have to change it. Could you post one with a transparent background, too, by any chance? That would be much easier to integrate into banners and headings and the like.
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| October 20, 2015, 5:18 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Armon Russ
The logo is awesome. Looking at it now, you haven't really changed the symbol of MOCpages, but rather added to it. The red 1x1 brick represents MOCpages itself(obvious enough), and the yellow and orange bricks seem to symbolize its members, its community. Yes, there is a sense of unity in the simplicity of those three bricks, and the different colors show how they aren't exactly the same. But like apples and oranges, they do have something in common. They're LEGO bricks. All these different groups have dedicated themselves to different aspects of LEGO, but all the same, what unites us are our bricks. We use the same, simple plastic pieces for completely different things. Our unity is our fascination with the LEGO brick.

I guess I've gone a bit deep with that, but hey, I was having a moment back there. :P Anyway, the only thing that looks to be missing from it is text. If we're really going to be calling this hub the United Groups of MOCpages, maybe you could put the letters U, G, and M on each brick. M on the red brick, and maybe U on the yellow one, and G on the orange? Well, those are my thoughts, at least. Awesome work, Michael! ;P


Thanks a lot! Your comment makes me feel like I'm a famous artist. :P

I also like your idea for the letters, so I'll try and do that!

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| October 20, 2015, 5:52 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
You just have to take off the last pair of tags to get a Flickr image to work: MOCpages doesn't like the <script> element. I like the current logo, but, yeah, we might have to change it. Could you post one with a transparent background, too, by any chance? That would be much easier to integrate into banners and headings and the like.

Yes, I can try that! But I guess I might need a different programme on my father's PC for transparent backgrounds. (I'm not sure, if I can do that with photoshop, but I can try)
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| October 20, 2015, 5:55 pm
 Group admin 
Thanks for the comments!

I agree with you guys that it may be too similar to the MOCpages brick, but hopefully it's still different enough to qualify as an own logo (I mean the bricks at least have some different colors and the official MOCpages brick is hidden, so we might have a chance)

Still there is a risk though, so I'll work on some alternatives that can always replace our image.
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| October 20, 2015, 6:02 pm
Wow, this group sure has taken off in the last few days! Sorry I've been inactive, just school and a few family issues have gotten in the way. If I can help out somehow (Which it doesn't look like I need to currently) just tell me what to do! I'd be glad to help (But please, no large tasks. Life is hard enough for me already!) somehow with this group. It would be quite an honor.
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| October 20, 2015, 9:33 pm
 Group admin 
The logo looks good. I certainly hope that the site admins don't have a problem with it, although if they do, then at least we have their attention. Adding the letters could be a good idea.
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| October 21, 2015, 1:14 am
 Group admin 
For news articles to add to the group once it comes out...

First, we'll need a "Welcome to the Hub" article, announcing how it works, our goals, the current member groups and all that.
A public announcement asking people to integrate new members and invite new people to Mocpages. We should make sure that that one gets noticed across the site.
And perhaps an initial Moc showcase, which I suppose we could continue posting every other week or so.
As for other articles we can add, the LOM has new UCs every month, so if the Hub starts off at the start of a month, we can use that. The LOM also has challenge results every month, which we could also use, but if we do these, some posts concerning other groups would also be needed to balance things out.
And if there's any contests going on at the time the hub opens, we can post announcements for those. The Tourney is a good candidate, but there might be others as well.
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| October 21, 2015, 1:24 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Michael Kringe
Yes, I can try that! But I guess I might need a different programme on my father's PC for transparent backgrounds. (I'm not sure, if I can do that with photoshop, but I can try)

I know it works in Microsoft Powerpoint. :P As funny as it sounds, a late friend of mine proved the great powers of PP photo editing. Maybe I'll have some time to work with that during my next library work study shift if you hit a roadblock.
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| October 21, 2015, 1:33 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Mr. Cab
For news articles to add to the group once it comes out...

First, we'll need a "Welcome to the Hub" article, announcing how it works, our goals, the current member groups and all that.
A public announcement asking people to integrate new members and invite new people to Mocpages. We should make sure that that one gets noticed across the site.
And perhaps an initial Moc showcase, which I suppose we could continue posting every other week or so.
As for other articles we can add, the LOM has new UCs every month, so if the Hub starts off at the start of a month, we can use that. The LOM also has challenge results every month, which we could also use, but if we do these, some posts concerning other groups would also be needed to balance things out.
And if there's any contests going on at the time the hub opens, we can post announcements for those. The Tourney is a good candidate, but there might be others as well.

That sounds like a good plan. Would you like to handle one of the initial articles? You're probably well-known enough to get plenty of likes and views on an article, especially with the propaganda machines of all the active groups behind you, and I think your writing style would be well-suited to a straightforward message (I spend too many words building up fake gilt and glib phrases).
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| October 21, 2015, 1:35 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
That sounds like a good plan. Would you like to handle one of the initial articles? You're probably well-known enough to get plenty of likes and views on an article, especially with the propaganda machines of all the active groups behind you, and I think your writing style would be well-suited to a straightforward message (I spend too many words building up fake gilt and glib phrases).

Oh, that reminds me. So these articles we're doing will be actual posts on MOCpages and not just convo threads, correct? If so, we have a lot of opportunities with that. I think we can create an entire LEGO news cast, with different news characters giving the latest on each group that's enlisted in the hub. The post could be an amusing news update (complete with funny cameos, sketches, and the like) that happens once a month for the community to look forward to. Rise of the Mage and LIU have proven that a regularly posting series can really hold people's interest on MOCpages. What do you guys say?
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| October 21, 2015, 10:57 am
Quoting Armon Russ
Oh, that reminds me. So these articles we're doing will be actual posts on MOCpages and not just convo threads, correct? If so, we have a lot of opportunities with that. I think we can create an entire LEGO news cast, with different news characters giving the latest on each group that's enlisted in the hub. The post could be an amusing news update (complete with funny cameos, sketches, and the like) that happens once a month for the community to look forward to. Rise of the Mage and LIU have proven that a regularly posting series can really hold people's interest on MOCpages. What do you guys say?

I believe posts will be better because people will take more notice to them, opposed to threads.
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| October 21, 2015, 1:50 pm
 Group admin 
I can certainly help with the HTML/CSS aspect of it all.

Quoting Hub logo

I Really like the logo.

Quoting Initial groups

Seems this part of the discussion moved to the Groups to Contact thread.

Quoting members to invite
I guess this would just be a list from groups to contact? I'd also recommend checking the following page to add new people who may have just joined MOCpages.
http://www.mocpages.com/recent.php?
range=week&of=&sort=most_recent

Quoting News items or articles
When we go public, we should have some pages ready to add to the news feed. Keep your eyes out and your minds open for worthy subjects to report on, both in your groups and beyond.

Yikes, this will be the hardest part by far. What kinds of posts, and how often are two very important decisions to make.

Quoting Threads Threads are easy to make; we just need to decide on our initial set.

Seems this part of the discussion moved to the Topics and Group Structure thread.

Quoting Homepage HTML/CSS

I can definitely help with that.

Quoting Rules

Perhaps something like:
1. Do not create new threads
2. Ask Questions! Best chance of getting your questions answered is if they are asked in the questions thread.
3. Play well!

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| October 21, 2015, 11:14 pm
 Group admin 
sorry I haven't been active, what can I do to help?
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| October 22, 2015, 9:35 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Joel Tyer
I believe posts will be better because people will take more notice to them, opposed to threads.

I agree. Also it will be clearer and ensure that the newest is always the first to notice...
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| October 22, 2015, 9:35 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Michael Kringe
I agree. Also it will be clearer and ensure that the newest is always the first to notice...

yeah I agree too.
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| October 22, 2015, 10:33 am
 Group admin 
My thoughts:
The logo is amazing. If it is too close to MOCpages logo I would love to help out, but I think we've already established that he really doesn't care any more. I won't be of much use on the homepage because I'm not very good at HTML. Could some one invite me too the construction group though? I would still like to be involved. As to marketing, I think we could have several people post the initial article to get maximum exposure. Initial groups, I would just say invite all of the groups mentioned in the groups to contact, and then keep spreading the word and inviting other groups as they show up.
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| October 22, 2015, 11:15 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting David FNJ
Seems this part of the discussion moved to the Groups to Contact thread.

Quoting members to invite
I guess this would just be a list from groups to contact? I'd also recommend checking the following page to add new people who may have just joined MOCpages.
http://www.mocpages.com/recent.php?
range=week&of=&sort=most_recent

Quoting News items or articles
When we go public, we should have some pages ready to add to the news feed. Keep your eyes out and your minds open for worthy subjects to report on, both in your groups and beyond.

Yikes, this will be the hardest part by far. What kinds of posts, and how often are two very important decisions to make.

Quoting Threads Threads are easy to make; we just need to decide on our initial set.

Seems this part of the discussion moved to the Topics and Group Structure thread.

Quoting Homepage HTML/CSS

I can definitely help with that.

Quoting Rules

Perhaps something like:
1. Do not create new threads
2. Ask Questions! Best chance of getting your questions answered is if they are asked in the questions thread.
3. Play well!

FNJ lives! It's great to see you back on MOCpages, and I would love your help with anything you're willing to help with.
Addressing your topics:
- Yes, I was planning to scour that page for new members. It's probably a good policy to hit everyone who shows up there to ensure that we get ALL of the active builders.
- Regarding news, we were planning to have several different kinds of articles: site news (i.e., what Sean doesn't tell us and we have to work out on our own), group news (interesting new groups and updates to old ones), events (the Tourney and so on) and possibly general Lego fan articles, like set/series reviews, builder interviews and the like to drum up interest.
- Yes, threads are fairly well nailed-down in the other thread, as is the task of bringing groups into the fold.
- We're working on the HTML on another page, which I'll send you an invitation to if you haven't seen it already, So far, I've managed to knock off some stylistic elements from the MOCpages layout, and we've listed most of what we need in the Topics and Group Structure thread.
- I like the rules! We might want to add a disclaimer about how the actual site staff haven't endorsed this, too, but you hit the basics pretty well.
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| October 24, 2015, 12:28 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Micah the Fire-breathing Hobbit
My thoughts:
The logo is amazing. If it is too close to MOCpages logo I would love to help out, but I think we've already established that he really doesn't care any more. I won't be of much use on the homepage because I'm not very good at HTML. Could some one invite me too the construction group though? I would still like to be involved. As to marketing, I think we could have several people post the initial article to get maximum exposure. Initial groups, I would just say invite all of the groups mentioned in the groups to contact, and then keep spreading the word and inviting other groups as they show up.

About the marketing... I dislike the idea of several people uploading the exact same thing. However, if it's always the same message, but a different Moc, I think that could be really powerful. My suggestion would be to have one person post the initial introductory article (because to have several people post the same lengthy "welcome to the hub" message would be strange), and to have all of the hub organizers post the announcement about integrating new members, each with a different moc, turning it into a whole movement. That could get us a lot of attention and may provide the initial push that I believe we need to get the hub started.
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| October 24, 2015, 2:37 am
 Group admin 
I agree 100% The initial push is critical for what we are trying to do.
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| October 25, 2015, 12:42 pm
 Group admin 
The new alternative logos look great! Plus they aren't too similar to Sean's MOcpages brick, so if he will ever trouble our logo design, we can always switch to some good-looking alternatives.
I personally prefer the 2nd one, but the first is closer to the MP brick.
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| October 27, 2015, 1:02 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Mr. Cab
About the marketing... I dislike the idea of several people uploading the exact same thing. However, if it's always the same message, but a different Moc, I think that could be really powerful. My suggestion would be to have one person post the initial introductory article (because to have several people post the same lengthy "welcome to the hub" message would be strange), and to have all of the hub organizers post the announcement about integrating new members, each with a different moc, turning it into a whole movement. That could get us a lot of attention and may provide the initial push that I believe we need to get the hub started.

On the other hand, if we choose one person to post this page, then it will get more likes and have a greater chance of scoring a long-lasting position on "Across MOCpages" or "Explore". It is all about the initial push, but I'm not sure which will get the message to more people.
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| October 27, 2015, 4:33 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
On the other hand, if we choose one person to post this page, then it will get more likes and have a greater chance of scoring a long-lasting position on "Across MOCpages" or "Explore". It is all about the initial push, but I'm not sure which will get the message to more people.
Mmmm Perhaps we could just hhave a quick vote on it? Otherwise this is gonna turn into a pretty lengthy discussion.

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| October 27, 2015, 7:29 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
On the other hand, if we choose one person to post this page, then it will get more likes and have a greater chance of scoring a long-lasting position on "Across MOCpages" or "Explore". It is all about the initial push, but I'm not sure which will get the message to more people.

If several people post the same message with different Mocs, we could theoretically fill all four slots in the across mocpages section. I mean, that's not very likely to happen, but it is a possibility. Regardless, having lots of people post the message will reach more people, I think.
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| October 28, 2015, 12:13 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Mr. Cab
If several people post the same message with different Mocs, we could theoretically fill all four slots in the across mocpages section. I mean, that's not very likely to happen, but it is a possibility. Regardless, having lots of people post the message will reach more people, I think.

I guess it's worth a try. Why not?
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| October 28, 2015, 1:18 pm
 Group admin 
Trying not to lose this:
Email address: MOCpagesHubGroup@gmail.com
Username: MOCpages Hub
Password: M0Cpages


The username and password are the same on the MPs and Google.
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