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| October 9, 2015, 9:03 pm
Quoting Saxton ~
Thanks for the invite!

So this group is for admins and mods on mocpages to come together for a Hub Planning Group?
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| October 9, 2015, 9:05 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Saxton ~
So this group is for admins and mods on mocpages to come together for a Hub Planning Group?

Yes. I invited all the admins and mods from every active group I can think of. Eventually, we'll have the hub, which will hopefully encourage everybody on MOCpages to be more active, and will be a place for members of groups to converse with each other and will unite everyone on the entire pages.
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| October 9, 2015, 9:36 pm
Quoting Micah the Fire-breathing Hobbit
Yes. I invited all the admins and mods from every active group I can think of. Eventually, we'll have the hub, which will hopefully encourage everybody on MOCpages to be more active, and will be a place for members of groups to converse with each other and will unite everyone on the entire pages.


Sounds cool.
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| October 9, 2015, 9:56 pm
Tell me when the actual group is made. ;)
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| October 9, 2015, 10:33 pm
Very interesting concept.
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| October 10, 2015, 12:13 am
Neato!
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| October 10, 2015, 1:04 am
 Group admin 
Great idea ! Tell me what i can do to help !
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| October 10, 2015, 8:43 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Shock TNC
Great idea ! Tell me what i can do to help !

Simply come up with ideas to help with logistics and stuff.
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| October 10, 2015, 10:12 am
Thanks for the invite! Seems like a good idea! I'll try to think of some ideas!
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| October 10, 2015, 10:29 pm
 Group admin 
Any ideas for this yet?
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| October 11, 2015, 5:45 pm
 Group admin 
I'm just brainstorming, but these are some features that I've liked about other websites. Of course, since none of us are actually involved in running the site officially, we can't really accomplish some of them at present, but we can narrow the list down later (I did mark some of those with an asterisk, though).

- Explanations for crashes, glitches and downtime*
- User surveys that guide the future of the site*
- Occasional improvements and updates*
- A staff-run activity feed including information on or shout-outs to:
--- Large contests on the site
--- Exceptional creations or projects undertaken by MOCpages members
--- Site changes and glitches*
--- Distinctive new groups
--- Guides and reviews of building methods and MOCpages success methods
--- Anything else that appeals to the site at large
- A convenient reference section including:
--- Previous news feed posts
--- Categorized lists of groups
--- How-to guides and general MOCpages tips
- A thread where new members can briefly introduce themselves
- Active staff
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| October 11, 2015, 6:52 pm
 Group admin 
More brainstorming:
- We want to support the big groups since that will let us focus our resources and appeal to the most people, but at the same time we want to recognize new groups and ideas. One of MOCpages strengths that sites like Eurobricks and BZPower lack is that anyone is free to come up with their own game or setting without the site's admins breathing down their necks, and we don't want to mess that up by favoring the heavyweight groups all the time.
- We need some way to actually get people to see this hub - it serves no purpose if it sits off on the side, unseen by all. I can think of a few ways that we could do this:
--- Making an easy-to-recognize, professional-looking logo for the hub.
--- Ensuring that the hub looks nice before it goes public
--- Getting endorsement from the staff of the big groups before the hub goes public and putting the logo and links on their homepages after it goes up
--- Inviting EVERYONE when the site goes up and routinely checking for new builders that would otherwise slip through the cracks
--- Keeping track of what needs to be done and making sure that we always have someone to do it (lest we grow inactive)
- To make all of the information digestable, we could spread the updates on each of the major groups out across the month. The Insurgency gets a turn, then a few days later there's a plug for The Fellowship, and so on. Popular groups with monthly competitions might also consider staggering their start times, and we could do the same for yearly events and tournaments.
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| October 11, 2015, 7:15 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Saxton ~


Quoting Micah the Fire-breathing Hobbit


Quoting RaptorTalon ~


Quoting ~ Adair ~


Quoting S2 Pot


Quoting Daniel H.


Quoting Shock TNC


Quoting Pakari Nation99 (G Hayes)


Quoting Gilbert Despathens







Oops... Sorry, I really didn't notice that I was invited to this group, so I wrote a large text about my suggestion of a central MOCpages Council called "UGM - The United Groups of MOCpages" in the group "Keep MOCpages Active!" (not noticing that this group has a very similar idea how to centralize MOCpages) Again, sorry, but here's what I think:

http://www.mocpages.com/group_conversation.php?id=25465&topicid=103100
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| October 13, 2015, 2:23 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
More brainstorming:
- We want to support the big groups since that will let us focus our resources and appeal to the most people, but at the same time we want to recognize new groups and ideas. One of MOCpages strengths that sites like Eurobricks and BZPower lack is that anyone is free to come up with their own game or setting without the site's admins breathing down their necks, and we don't want to mess that up by favoring the heavyweight groups all the time.
- We need some way to actually get people to see this hub - it serves no purpose if it sits off on the side, unseen by all. I can think of a few ways that we could do this:
--- Making an easy-to-recognize, professional-looking logo for the hub.
--- Ensuring that the hub looks nice before it goes public
--- Getting endorsement from the staff of the big groups before the hub goes public and putting the logo and links on their homepages after it goes up
--- Inviting EVERYONE when the site goes up and routinely checking for new builders that would otherwise slip through the cracks
--- Keeping track of what needs to be done and making sure that we always have someone to do it (lest we grow inactive)
- To make all of the information digestable, we could spread the updates on each of the major groups out across the month. The Insurgency gets a turn, then a few days later there's a plug for The Fellowship, and so on. Popular groups with monthly competitions might also consider staggering their start times, and we could do the same for yearly events and tournaments.

Some awesome ideas!! I think we should really try to make at least the list of all the participating groups come true, maybe a huge list of html links on the group homepage!

This is what it may look like (just an idea though and most of the names are invented):

GROUPS (Current number: 53)

Star Wars Groups(3):

Star Wars Lego Creations
The Dark Side
Episode VII Discussion

Chatrooms(4):

Xtreme TFOLS
The Active Group
...

Fantasy (22):

Harry Potter
Narnia
Orc MOCs

The ten largest groups on MOCpages(10):

...

Newest groups to the alliance(3):

The Brick Club
Awesomeness!!
Not so awesome!
...

...

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| October 13, 2015, 2:31 pm
Quoting Michael Kringe

I like that idea! It Would really help and make the group interesting :)
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| October 13, 2015, 7:01 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Michael Kringe
Some awesome ideas!! I think we should really try to make at least the list of all the participating groups come true, maybe a huge list of html links on the group homepage!

This is what it may look like (just an idea though and most of the names are invented):

GROUPS (Current number: 53)

Star Wars Groups(3):

Star Wars Lego Creations
The Dark Side
Episode VII Discussion

Chatrooms(4):

Xtreme TFOLS
The Active Group
...

Fantasy (22):

Harry Potter
Narnia
Orc MOCs

The ten largest groups on MOCpages(10):

...

Newest groups to the alliance(3):

The Brick Club
Awesomeness!!
Not so awesome!
...

...


Yeah, I like that.

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| October 13, 2015, 11:33 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Gilbert Despathens

You clearly have some good ideas. I think that this may work with these.
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| October 13, 2015, 11:37 pm
Hello. I'd like to thank you for the invite, more formal groups on MOCpages are the only ones that pique my interest. I'm particularly interested in this one. Allow me to ask something, though. Moreso to be aware of our capabilities than to be pessimistic, I must pose this question. Other than perform as an interest group, what influence can this group DIRECTLY have on a site with a staff base that its community sees as effectually dead?
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| October 15, 2015, 2:47 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Sean /EMMSixteenA4
Hello. I'd like to thank you for the invite, more formal groups on MOCpages are the only ones that pique my interest. I'm particularly interested in this one. Allow me to ask something, though. Moreso to be aware of our capabilities than to be pessimistic, I must pose this question. Other than perform as an interest group, what influence can this group DIRECTLY have on a site with a staff base that its community sees as effectually dead?

Thanks for bringing up the unspoken issue: we have no actual control over whether the site lives or dies as long as the actual staff (i.e., Sean Kenney, whom even Chris Phipson and Mark Kelso haven't been able to communicate with since the activity bar died) continue their silence. For this reason, the Lands of Mythron, at least, is looking into Flickr as a safety net despite our love of this site. My hope is that, if the staff do indeed see the community as dead, then our endeavour here will change that impression. In the worst case, if Sean Kenney is just done with MOCpages, then maybe we could use our own efforts to persuade him to let someone else keep the site running.
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| October 15, 2015, 3:13 pm
we should think of a group icon...
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| October 15, 2015, 4:17 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Joel Tyer
we should think of a group icon...

How about something in keeping with the MOCpages aesthetic? Maybe an isometric view of a red 1x1 brick outlined in white, close enough to work as a parallel but different enough to be distinct? I can try mocking one up this evening.
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| October 15, 2015, 4:31 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
How about something in keeping with the MOCpages aesthetic? Maybe an isometric view of a red 1x1 brick outlined in white, close enough to work as a parallel but different enough to be distinct? I can try mocking one up this evening.

Or, we could take all of the names of the groups and use them to make a word cloud that says "MOCpages."
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| October 15, 2015, 10:34 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Sean /EMMSixteenA4
Hello. I'd like to thank you for the invite, more formal groups on MOCpages are the only ones that pique my interest. I'm particularly interested in this one. Allow me to ask something, though. Moreso to be aware of our capabilities than to be pessimistic, I must pose this question. Other than perform as an interest group, what influence can this group DIRECTLY have on a site with a staff base that its community sees as effectually dead?


Also, in addition to what Gilbert said, this will hopefully increase morale of the site, and will give members a way to continue to be active despite glitches and apathetic staff.
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| October 15, 2015, 10:37 pm
 Group admin 
Thank you for the invite! I will start getting involved tomorrow morning when I can think straight. :P From what I have read so far, the hub idea is fantastic.
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| October 16, 2015, 1:49 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
How about something in keeping with the MOCpages aesthetic? Maybe an isometric view of a red 1x1 brick outlined in white, close enough to work as a parallel but different enough to be distinct? I can try mocking one up this evening.

Sounds good. Maybe we can also change the size of the brick (2x2 or 1x2) as a symbol of the group's importance.
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| October 16, 2015, 6:05 am
Thanks for the invite, guys. I'll try to get involved with all this planning as soon as possible. ;P
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| October 16, 2015, 12:01 pm
Quoting Michael Kringe
Sounds good. Maybe we can also change the size of the brick (2x2 or 1x2) as a symbol of the group's importance.

Nice concept. I don't think we want to stray too far from the original logo, though, seeing as we're trying to unite everybody. I think a newer and more up-to-date in technology looking 1x1 brick is the way to go.
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| October 16, 2015, 12:05 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Michael Kringe
Some awesome ideas!! I think we should really try to make at least the list of all the participating groups come true, maybe a huge list of html links on the group homepage!

This is what it may look like (just an idea though and most of the names are invented):

GROUPS (Current number: 53)

Star Wars Groups(3):

Star Wars Lego Creations
The Dark Side
Episode VII Discussion

Chatrooms(4):

Xtreme TFOLS
The Active Group
...

Fantasy (22):

Harry Potter
Narnia
Orc MOCs

The ten largest groups on MOCpages(10):

...

Newest groups to the alliance(3):

The Brick Club
Awesomeness!!
Not so awesome!
...

...

Going off of this, here's a list of categories that may or may not turn out to be useful.

Help groups
Groups just for sharing creations (perhaps with a subcategory for groups that get you lotz of likez111!!111!11!1!!!11!!! :P)
Themed groups (this would have subcategories, such as Star Wars and Fantasy)
Chatrooms
Contests (subcategories for past and current)
Roleplaying Groups

And then some categories like these:
10 Most active groups
Groups that need more activity
Groups that need members
10 groups with the most members
Groups that need creations
10 groups with the most creations
New groups

Not sure about that second section. Most of those categories are probably unnecessary.
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| October 17, 2015, 7:32 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Michael Rutherford


I totally agree with your understanding of what it means to be an admin and mod. Many groups are inactive because nobody is left taking their mod and admin duties seriously.

There are indeed still many groups (especially those with younger people) who still see admins and mods as positions of power, but instead they should't be more than experienced and motivated companions of all the other members and shouldn't have more rights than anyone else. They should also always be around and willing to edit the homepage and delete the comments of rude users, not because they're better than everyone else, but because they're the ONLY people who are bestowed with access to these restricted technical features.

Another thing I always support and successfully established in some groups are regular and democratic mod elections where everyone who has proven to be a friendly, reliable and active part of the community gets the chance to become a moderator or admin, considering who may be willing to do the required and very often annoying mod duties.

If we manage to establish "democracy" as a natural factor of groups, MOCpages may be a better place.
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| October 18, 2015, 11:27 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Mr. Cab


The first part of your idea how to create and sort the list of groups sounds really good!

We could definitely use that as a base.
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| October 18, 2015, 11:29 am
 Group admin 
Since so many people are leaving Mocpages, when the Hub is opened, I believe we need to do something big that will catch the attention of people on other sides (and perhaps motivate some people to return to Mocpages). I'm not sure what that could be though. A giant collaboration of some sort is an option.
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| October 18, 2015, 1:33 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Mr. Cab
Since so many people are leaving Mocpages, when the Hub is opened, I believe we need to do something big that will catch the attention of people on other sides (and perhaps motivate some people to return to Mocpages). I'm not sure what that could be though. A giant collaboration of some sort is an option.


How would that be done? I suppose LDD is out of the question :P

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| October 18, 2015, 1:38 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Michael Rutherford

Mr. Cab.

There is no silver bullet solution to this problem.

Not a club, or a MOC, or a really really big MOC.

The answer to the problem is not a big harry centralized effort.

The answer is cultural. We have to do a better job of RETAINING young builders when they first dabble in MOCpages. We (group leaders) need to make them LIKE this environment.

These are good points. Of course doing something big to get people's attention won't solve the whole problem. But it can get us started. We shouldn't just sit in a corner waiting until people notice us and then get them to stay. Actively attracting people to the site by some way, or at least letting people know that we're still here, can be an important first step in keeping Mocpages alive, and is definitely necessary if we want to make Mocpages more active than it currently is. Of course getting people to stay is all about what you said, respect and getting them to like this community. But you don't get a chance to like the community if you never even know about it. The point of starting the hub with something big is to reach out and get people to take a look at Mocpages, so that we can then persuade them to stay with respect and all the other qualities you mentioned.
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| October 18, 2015, 7:06 pm
 Group admin 
So obviously there is an inevitable need to make the new and still motivated users part of our already dying community. But of course we first need to find them, so my suggestion would be to use the explore button more often, but then we shouldn't only comment on the builds in the "popular this week" and "most discussed" section but also take a look at the "By topic" section on the left side. If we then choose a topic and press the button that says "newest", it will show us fresh and very often unnoticed MOCs by new users. Then we can comment on them and slowly introduce the new MOCCers to MOCpages.

Very simple actually, but obviously many of us still keep ignoring new people and their often excellent builds...
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| October 18, 2015, 7:54 pm
Quoting Michael Kringe
So obviously there is an inevitable need to make the new and still motivated users part of our already dying community. But of course we first need to find them, so my suggestion would be to use the explore button more often, but then we shouldn't only comment on the builds in the "popular this week" and "most discussed" section but also take a look at the "By topic" section on the left side. If we then choose a topic and press the button that says "newest", it will show us fresh and very often unnoticed MOCs by new users. Then we can comment on them and slowly introduce the new MOCCers to MOCpages.

Very simple actually, but obviously many of us still keep ignoring new people and their often excellent builds...

Very true. I myself have gotten into the habit of liking and commenting only on MOCs of my favorite builders, and even then I don't always comment on each and every one. The problem is new people don't get noticed, get discouraged, and if they simply don't have the passion to keep building and gain more interest from others, they leave. I think we all need to start checking out the creations at the bottom of the homepage, and even the ones that don't make it there. C&C are invaluable for new members, and really encourage them to keep progressing. You can click "All" to the right of the title "Everyone's LEGO Creations" to see all of the latest MOCs that have been posted. Just a faster way than going through the explore page. ;P
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| October 19, 2015, 11:14 am
 Group admin 
Here are my thoughts on the above section of the conversation, which I will do my best to describe succinctly.

1. Will the Hub help?
There are several purposes of the Hub, and none of them are talking as MOCpages dies.
First, its central premise to bring fresh builders in and engage as many people as possible. It will be hard, but we're going to try to invite as many rookies as possible to give them a good first experience with MOCpages and give them the support they need to get started.
Second, we hope to use it as a flag or signal flare - something to tell Sean Kenney that the site still has a vibrant community that is willing to improve and adapt with the same creativity as ever. Basically, it's a long shot, but a concrete gesture like what we're working on could help open negotiations of some sort.

2. Exodus of Builders
Yes, the site bugs are scaring people away. No, people don't reach out to relatively obscure builders as often as they should. No, a contest won't help, and the Hub, at best, can only retain people that are already on MOCpages.

However, the Hub is not the only tool we have. Many of us have presences on other sites, and the LOM, for one, hosts a large-scale yearly contest on MOCpages with invitations sent to builders on other sites as well. This year we have an even greater focus on luring "foreigners" to our shores with more build-up and better prizes. Also, liking and commenting on creations is a fairly easy personal step to take and one that has nothing to do with the Hub itself.

3. Officers
First of all, admin powers are practically useful, and I, at least, am in the habit of making active people admins in informal groups like this partly to give them a more diverse toolkit as well as to show that I'm not in an authority position above them.

As for central authority versus oligarchal rule, I can only say that the LOM has worked far better with a council of equals than it did with a single leader, and that the Hub's core idea of a communal place lends itself well to the oligarchy model.
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| October 19, 2015, 3:14 pm
 Group admin 
Who made me an admin? :P Thanks. XD
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| October 19, 2015, 3:35 pm
Quoting Michael Rutherford

Dude, you are the leader. I can't find anything to disagree with in what you say. I don't even know if I'm even worthy to be in this group. While I am always checking to see if there is something new in eXtreme TFOLs, there's never really anything new, and I have slowly lost activity over the past few years. I'm not even a TFOL anymore, haven't been since 2012. I think the main reason why is that I still have friends in that group, but the group has really dropped in activity.

I feel like we need to get a new person in my place anyway since I don't know of people to invite. The problem with that though, is finding someone that wants to manage the group and can actually do it. The group hasn't been active because most of the TFOLs grew up, lost interest, or gained more interest in other things than spending so much time on the Internet.

MOCpages has lost the activity bar, so everything is going down now. I think that what is going on here is a nice idea, like you say, but I don't think it's going to work because so many people have left, and everyone that looks at MOCpages now thinks it's a bad place. Even though I don't think I'll ever leave MOCpages, I have certainly been spending more time on Flickr. The biggest problem with that site though is that unless you are in every LEGO group, your stuff won't be seen. At least here, the people do more and it is all about LEGO.

I'm happy to go down with MOCpages, but it's still going down.
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| October 19, 2015, 4:44 pm
 Group admin 
Uh oh, just realised that I'm the commoner appointed by the lords to make the government seem more democratic. :P JK

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| October 19, 2015, 5:24 pm
 Group admin 
My thoughts on the above:
Yes, our mission is doomed. There is no way to save MOCpages from the condition that it is in now.
However, notice that I say NOW. First off, the leadership of MOCpages is only mostly dead. Chris Phipson is still around, but rarely. Second off, if there is even one site official, the site is not dead. MOCpages is still fairly alive. We can still encourage new members to come, and old members to come back. The Hub's purpose is not to be an active group. It is to be a larger group made for the community to grow and expand, coming up with ways to flourish and spread life across this dying site.
Michael Rutherford, you said that there is no silver bullet to this situation and that this mission cannot possibly succeed. But I see it differently. I see the Hub AS the silver bullet. The real test is the aim. The Idea of this group is fabulous. The execution is the main problem right now. That is why we've invited creators of successful groups who have ideas as to how to make this site better. Is our mission doomed? More or less. I simply prefer to think less. We can pull this off, but it will be difficult, and we need help from everyone.
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| October 19, 2015, 10:47 pm
I really like the way this conversation is going, but I'd like to point out one thing we're putting too much focus on.

MOCpages is dying. This is a fact, and everyone says it over and over again. Our cause is doomed. We can't save it. The guys who run the place have left it to collapse.

Well, so what?

We have a chance and we're going to take that chance. We can gain more members and we can send a message to Sean Kenney and everyone else. But what if this fails? But what if that doesn't work? Listen, forget about "what if." Think about "it will." It's cheesy and cliche, I know, but being positive is how we move forward. We can't rise up if we point out that everything else is falling. We /can/ save MOCpages. We /will/ save MOCpages. Stop moping about the activity bar. The hub will replace that. Stop complaining that the MOCpages team has abandoned the site. The hub's "team of teams" as Michael Rutherford put it, will replace them. We're going to make this work, and we're going to resurrect what's left of the 'pages no matter how impossible it seems. We all love this site and we WILL NOT let it die. MOCpages has gone through tough times in the past. Look at the image crash a few years back. Did people just walk away and leave after that? Did they say "Jeez, if this site can't even maintain its pictures, what are the chances of it maintaining anything else?" I'm sure plenty of people did. But others didn't. They stuck it out and things got better.

I'm not abandoning MOCpages. None of us are. Because we have a chance to fix things, and we WILL make this work.
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| October 20, 2015, 11:01 am
Michael, you're killing it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, I'd argue that you have the most experience of us all in this field and it shows in your writing.

Halhi, I don't think that the hub is meant to replace the activity bar. The hub isn't necessarily a place for every member of MOCpages. Indeed, I see it as a place for a select few influencers. This is where they will discuss the latest events, and take that information to disseminate amongst their own followings. Groups are the activity bar for the majority of members now, and the Hub is the group for groups, if you will. The TFOLPC, LoM, and TFOTB are all places with distinct user bases who frequent those groups to discuss issues relevant to them. Many of the users won't be interested in what's going on in other groups! They have their personal interests, and they go to the group that best caters to them. I would go so far as to say that the hub would be rendered useless with a large number of members. It's like democracy - as great as it would be to engage every citizen in every vote, it's much more efficient to elect representatives who can speak for their people and inform them of important matters. We have an opportunity here to unite the most influential members of MOCpages and have them bring a unified message to their friends and followers. This message will be all the more effective if the non-admins of MOCpages don't see what's going on behind the scenes, only the well-polished results of our work.

We can't be everything to everyone, but we can make a difference in the circles we frequent. And when you add up all those circles, you have a very powerful following.
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| October 20, 2015, 11:22 am
Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist

Did you just call me Halhi? Not sure if I should take that as an insult or a compliment. :P :P :P

But anyway, what I'm saying is since there seems to be no effort put into fixing the activity bar, the hub can act as its replacement. Giving people the latest news on what's happening on MOCpages. It's true that members aren't all that interested in other groups, but knowing what's going on in those groups gives us a sense of unity, and also allows people to become more involved in the community and what's happening around them. Plus, there's the whole exchange of information thing. Yes, our groups our different, but we can benefit from working together and helping each other out. The goal is not to look at merely what's best for yourself, but for the whole community.
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| October 20, 2015, 11:35 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Armon Russ
Did you just call me Halhi? Not sure if I should take that as an insult or a compliment. :P :P :P


I think I can guess which one you took it as. :P
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| October 20, 2015, 2:40 pm
 Group admin 
Y'know contacts off site might help get things going a bit. I mean, this could almost become the MOCpages welcome centre for both experienced builders and the not so experienced ones. If you give people some convincing reasons they might join. I've managed to bring a couple of people I knew from LEGO.com Galleries over, they will be joining the Lands of Mythron group some time soon.
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| October 20, 2015, 2:45 pm
Quoting Armon Russ
Did you just call me Halhi? Not sure if I should take that as an insult or a compliment. :P :P :P

But anyway, what I'm saying is since there seems to be no effort put into fixing the activity bar, the hub can act as its replacement. Giving people the latest news on what's happening on MOCpages. It's true that members aren't all that interested in other groups, but knowing what's going on in those groups gives us a sense of unity, and also allows people to become more involved in the community and what's happening around them. Plus, there's the whole exchange of information thing. Yes, our groups our different, but we can benefit from working together and helping each other out. The goal is not to look at merely what's best for yourself, but for the whole community.

Whoops, just glimpsed your buddy icon and mistook you for him. Sorry about that.

Personally I used the activity bar more to see what creations people were commenting on, rather than to keep up with MOCpages news so that's where our different perspectives are coming from I think. I agree that we want more engagement between communities, though I think that that's what cross-posting into our respective groups would achieve. Same effect, different delivery system. Regardless, I'm sure we'll figure out what's best once the group's more fleshed out.
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| October 20, 2015, 3:53 pm
 Group admin 
Firstly, sorry I took so long to get to this group, I've basically ignored my invites, so I check them rarely.

Secondly, this is an fantastic idea. I'm glad there has been so much positive feedback and active involvement.

Lastly, I'd be glad to help out where I can. Though I first need to read up on some things here. Now that I'm here, I'll check back regularly.
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| October 21, 2015, 1:59 pm
I haven't said much in here, have I?

Well, I'll try to change that.
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| October 25, 2015, 5:40 pm
 Group admin 
MOCpages Community: https://plus.google.com/communities/114798265357352625086
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| October 26, 2015, 11:50 am
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Quoting jonnylegoboy911 .
MOCpages Community: https://plus.google.com/communities/114798265357352625086

Looks great! I joined a few minutes ago.

Maybe we could also use it as a place for conversations, etc, when MOcpages has the next system crash.
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| October 27, 2015, 12:46 pm
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Quoting Michael Kringe
Looks great! I joined a few minutes ago.

Maybe we could also use it as a place for conversations, etc, when MOcpages has the next system crash.


Yeah. It's also good for hosting polls, unofficial topics (like the never-ending story) and posting photos for short term publicity.

Wait, what's your name on google+?
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| October 27, 2015, 1:46 pm
 Group admin 
Allies and lovers of MOCpages, I have journeyed forth to the place on this site where mortals can be closest to the actions of Sean: the MOCpages Help Group. Although of late there have been little more than empty echoes bespeaking the abandonment of this clockwork universe to run down on its own, today we have proof that our site's creator is alive and active. Yea, by his hand was the activity bar fixed - for good! - and in his mind are plans for a glorious new future on MOCpages.

Now, be still thy trembling hearts! These good tidings need not set us back in our work, but rather to affirm us in the merit of our cause. In plainspeak, let's show our enthusiasm and keep going as planned. Whatever Sean's plans, our own design can only do good, and likely offers many features that the official admins don't have the capability to maintain. Onwards!
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| October 30, 2015, 3:22 am
Actually, the activity bar is broken again.
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| October 30, 2015, 9:59 am
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Quoting Halhi 141
Actually, the activity bar is broken again.

Yep. Even though Sean is indeed working on updates, which had me excited for a while.
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| October 30, 2015, 3:07 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Allies and lovers of MOCpages, I have journeyed forth to the place on this site where mortals can be closest to the actions of Sean: the MOCpages Help Group. Although of late there have been little more than empty echoes bespeaking the abandonment of this clockwork universe to run down on its own, today we have proof that our site's creator is alive and active. Yea, by his hand was the activity bar fixed - for good! - and in his mind are plans for a glorious new future on MOCpages.

Now, be still thy trembling hearts! These good tidings need not set us back in our work, but rather to affirm us in the merit of our cause. In plainspeak, let's show our enthusiasm and keep going as planned. Whatever Sean's plans, our own design can only do good, and likely offers many features that the official admins don't have the capability to maintain. Onwards!
So deep So very very deep :P

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| October 30, 2015, 3:26 pm
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Quoting jonnylegoboy911 .

Yeah. It's also good for hosting polls, unofficial topics (like the never-ending story) and posting photos for short term publicity.

Wait, what's your name on google+?

My name on G+ is Balin Fundinul.
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| November 2, 2015, 5:48 am
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Quoting Michael Kringe
My name on G+ is Balin Fundinul.


Roger that. I'm making all the admins of this group/the group 'under construction' admins there. No responsibility really, just editing privileges and stuff.
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| November 2, 2015, 1:55 pm
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Sorry I haven't been able to help out around here much. Term has been especially difficult recently, but I hope to have some time next week.
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| November 5, 2015, 7:00 pm
Hey guys, sorry I've not been too active here lately. I've been thinking about this a lot, and I think that our goals are the same but we have very different methods of accomplishing them.

Ultimately, we all want to increase the activity of MOCpages and make it an appealing site again. However, I personally feel that the current approach is limited in who it can reach. As such, I will respectfully take leave of this group and focus on complementary methods which may help to reach other audiences.

I would love to stay and help with this concept, but time is an increasingly rare resource and the democratic process, while fair, is also slow. Best of luck with the Hub, I genuinely hope that you succeed in your mission.
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| November 7, 2015, 10:08 am
Photography guides for newcomers? I mean part of the reason why a lot of MOC's get overlooked is poor photography.

Anyway, I have very little time to contribute to this, but I'll be checking every once and a while. I also intend to post here ar some point :P
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| November 9, 2015, 9:58 pm
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Quoting Mohamed Marei
Photography guides for newcomers? I mean part of the reason why a lot of MOC's get overlooked is poor photography.

Anyway, I have very little time to contribute to this, but I'll be checking every once and a while. I also intend to post here ar some point :P

That's a good idea, thanks.
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| November 10, 2015, 5:47 pm
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Quoting LukeClarenceVan The Revanchist
Hey guys, sorry I've not been too active here lately. I've been thinking about this a lot, and I think that our goals are the same but we have very different methods of accomplishing them.

Ultimately, we all want to increase the activity of MOCpages and make it an appealing site again. However, I personally feel that the current approach is limited in who it can reach. As such, I will respectfully take leave of this group and focus on complementary methods which may help to reach other audiences.

I would love to stay and help with this concept, but time is an increasingly rare resource and the democratic process, while fair, is also slow. Best of luck with the Hub, I genuinely hope that you succeed in your mission.

Shall we set up an admin of sorts (I'd nominate Gilbert) and he makes executive decisions and such?

I'm sure all of us would love to hear about an alternative, perhaps better, approach so that we can reach more people.
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| November 11, 2015, 5:57 pm
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I agree, but only if it's Gilbert !
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| November 15, 2015, 9:40 am
This looks cool!
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| December 19, 2015, 4:29 pm
I love how this group died. Lol.
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| February 19, 2016, 3:26 pm
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Quoting Thomas .
I love how this group died. Lol.

I didn't even know it went public.
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| February 22, 2016, 7:17 pm
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Additional people to add who may be interested in keeping things going:
D H
http://www.moc-pages.com/home.php/1866

matt rowntRee
http://www.moc-pages.com/home.php/94255

Mr. Cab
http://www.moc-pages.com/home.php/105700

Nick Barrett
http://www.moc-pages.com/home.php/45624

Jacob Syrups
http://www.moc-pages.com/home.php/116836
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| September 5, 2016, 10:27 am
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I still think this is a fantastic idea, but I just think that it's come too late. Site activity is dwindling and everybody knows it. I think this is too little too late. Having said that, any help is surely better than none. As long as it gets launched soon, otherwise it really will be too late.
--Blast--
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| September 5, 2016, 11:00 am
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