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Judging for contest #1
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Hey there judges, I thought a new chat string would be handy for judging. The sooner the judging begins the better.
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| May 4, 2009, 12:04 pm
Quoting Tterbo Magnesium
Hey there judges, I thought a new chat string would be handy for judging. The sooner the judging begins the better.


Fab! Before we begin; are these all the entrants:

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/108727 (Nate A)

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/113810 (Tterbo M)

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/111281 (Todd W)

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/115365(Tony D)

There are few other new pick-ups on the group homepage (Patrick L, Biczzz R), are these entries too?
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| May 4, 2009, 12:32 pm
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Quoting Ape Fight

Fab! Before we begin; are these all the entrants:

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/108727 (Nate A)

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/113810 (Tterbo M)

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/111281 (Todd W)

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/96879 (Tony D)

There are few other new pick-ups on the group homepage (Patrick L, Biczzz R), are these entries too?

Your only missing Patrick L, Biczzz's truck didn't qualify. Thanks ~tterbo~
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| May 4, 2009, 9:37 pm
 Group admin 
Oh, and if Ruud doesn't have time, I guess one judge will be enough.
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| May 4, 2009, 9:38 pm
Ok, we have the full list! 5 entries; the 4 above plus this http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/107768 (Patrick L)

Now I understand from the group admin that visual realism/detail is more important than technical realism, so that's the way this contest will be judged. Technical realism will be used as a tie-breaker should a tie occur.

All the entries are genuinely really good (I'm not just saying that); it's nice to have such a high standard of MOCs in this club.

Results shortly....
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| May 5, 2009, 2:06 pm
Soo sorry, i had forgotten to add my chevy....:-)

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| May 5, 2009, 2:19 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Patrick L.
Soo sorry, i had forgotten to add my chevy....:-)

No problem
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| May 5, 2009, 2:29 pm
OK, I can announce my part of the judging! If Ruud judges too and picks a different truck then we will have to tie-break, so the winner is not confirmed until we hear from him! (Admins, is that ok?)

Firstly; well done to all entrants. All of them are very high quality and quite original too : )

Tony D gets a special mention as his truck is actually my favorite. It seamlessly blends modern parts with classic building techniques, and is the most realistic and technical. However, it doesn't fulfill the brief of this contest as well as the others, so despite my favoritism, it can't be the winner today.

Todd W fulfills the contest brief the best of the 5 entrants I think. The smooth bodywork is really good- worth checking out for those that haven't. I think the cab lets it down a bit though, as at this scale an interior would be nice.

Both Tterbo's and Nate's trucks are brilliant MOCs- both fit the brief and both are very detailed and quite original too. Nate's has some excellent underbody detail whilst the exterior of Tterbo's pips it for intricacy (best body-kit by miles!).

I think Patrick L's pick-up is the most adventurous, most original and probably the hardest build. It fits the brief literally; "street tuned. As in lowered, chopped roof, big air intakes, spoilers and the like" although in more classic sense than the usual street-racer approach.

So for me Patrick L is the winner of Exclusively Pickups' first contest : )

However, we may have another judge to, er, judge yet so it's not official and anyone can still win it if Ruud judges too!

Well done to all, thanks to Tterbo for organising (and for a great group!) and I hope I judged OK (it's really hard by the way!!).

Admins; over to you! A.F : )


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| May 6, 2009, 1:29 pm
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Quoting Ape Fight
OK, I can announce my part of the judging! If Ruud judges too and picks a different truck then we will have to tie-break, so the winner is not confirmed until we hear from him! (Admins, is that ok?)

Firstly; well done to all entrants. All of them are very high quality and quite original too : )

Tony D gets a special mention as his truck is actually my favorite. It seamlessly blends modern parts with classic building techniques, and is the most realistic and technical. However, it doesn't fulfill the brief of this contest as well as the others, so despite my favoritism, it can't be the winner today.

Todd W fulfills the contest brief the best of the 5 entrants I think. The smooth bodywork is really good- worth checking out for those that haven't. I think the cab lets it down a bit though, as at this scale an interior would be nice.

Both Tterbo's and Nate's trucks are brilliant MOCs- both fit the brief and both are very detailed and quite original too. Nate's has some excellent underbody detail whilst the exterior of Tterbo's pips it for intricacy (best body-kit by miles!).

I think Patrick L's pick-up is the most adventurous, most original and probably the hardest build. It fits the brief literally; "street tuned. As in lowered, chopped roof, big air intakes, spoilers and the like" although in more classic sense than the usual street-racer approach.

So for me Patrick L is the winner of Exclusively Pickups' first contest : )

However, we may have another judge to, er, judge yet so it's not official and anyone can still win it if Ruud judges too!

Well done to all, thanks to Tterbo for organising (and for a great group!) and I hope I judged OK (it's really hard by the way!!).

Admins; over to you! A.F : )


Thank you ape fight,(clap, clap, clap) first rate judging. And thank you all contestants, (clap, clap, clap), top quality trucks that are a great honor to our fabulous club. Three cheers to all who participated-(hurray, hurray, hurray)
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| May 6, 2009, 1:52 pm
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Oh, and if Ruud Stam is to busy and can't get on in 10 days (May 16th), then Ape's decision will be final. And Ape, one thing I forgot to tell you, I was going to put 1st AND 2nd place in the 'elite' section part of the club. So if you could possibly choose second place as well, it would be great. Thanks again for your great judging job, ~tterbo~
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| May 6, 2009, 1:59 pm
Quoting Tterbo Magnesium
Ape, one thing I forgot to tell you, I was going to put 1st AND 2nd place in the 'elite' section part of the club. So if you could possibly choose second place as well, it would be great. Thanks again for your great judging job, ~tterbo~


I'll await Ruud's decision, as if he picks a different winner, we'll have to choose between our picks who wins overall, and the other one will get 2nd. If he doesn't judge I'm ok to announce 2nd : )
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| May 6, 2009, 2:02 pm
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Quoting Ape Fight

I'll await Ruud's decision, as if he picks a different winner, we'll have to choose between our picks who wins overall, and the other one will get 2nd. If he doesn't judge I'm ok to announce 2nd : )

Good idea

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| May 6, 2009, 4:53 pm
In that case, Congratz to Patrick L!! (clapping continues) I'm just glad I did well. Whew!
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| May 6, 2009, 11:03 pm
So there we have it; a unanimous decision;

***Patrick L wins EP's first contest!***

I wouldn't have picked the same 2nd place as Ruud (my vote would have gone to Tterbo) but happy to go with Ruud's decision. Congrats all, great models : )



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| May 10, 2009, 4:09 pm
Quoting Ruud Stam
okay, here are my thoughts.

Patrick L.
very cool MOC. it just oozes style. definitely meets the contest bill - the radical bodywork, rims, and tuned engine are very good. the bodywork is smooth and very low-slung, which fits the theme perfectly. the engine is OK, the chrome elements look sweet, as do the rims. what i absolutely hate about this MOC however is the roof. it looks lumpy, rough and blocky, and does not do the rest of the bodywork justice.

Nate Andrews.
the approach is interesting - applying street tuning parts to a pickup truck. truth be told however, I don't think it went very well. the vehicle still looks very rough-hewn and blocky, a larger bodykit to break up the lines would have been nice. the spoiler and rear look OK, but don't blow me away. engine and interior cut it, but not by a large margin. the redeemer here is definitely the new, SNOT front. a wraparound bodykit in that style, perhaps with a bit more contour, would have been great.

Tterbo Magnesium.
again, the street tuner approach. the wing on the back is kinda cool, but the supports are ludicrous and i hate them. i don't understand why the entire car's at a negative angle, the front should be lower than the back, if anything. i like the large rims, although it would've been nice if they'd been moved outwards a bit to make them look wider. also, a more contoured, "flaired" bodykit would've been nice. the front is certainly interesting, the shapes of the air intakes are what i would hope the rest of the bodykit to look like. the light designs are interesting, although i don't really like them. the redeemers for this model are the angular roof and the very good interior.

Todd Wilder.
finally, the kind of bodykit i want to see for a tuner truck. very dramatic, very cool. i like how the "roundness" theme continues throughout the whole vehicle. the bodywork is beautiful overall, save for two things: i detest the rear wing, it is unbelievable and unrealistic. also, the cabin is too short, which makes the whole vehicle look comicky. i love the placement of both the front and rear lights.

Tony Dunne.
for what it's worth, a cool model. however, i won't consider it for my final pick because it doesn't fit the contest requirement(s).

OVERALL.
some very interesting MOCs and building methods. sadly, i was disappointed by the lack of real "tuner" bodykits, and elaborate engines. still, there were some "highlights", and i'm certainly looking forward to our next contest.

WINNER.
hehe, don't think i'd forget to name a winner. all in all, i feel Patrick L.'s lowered and chopped truck deserves first place. it looks beautiful and showcases great building techniques.

2nd PLACE.
Todd Wilder's truck wins second place on my list because of the consistent design philosophy. while some parts need a bit of work, there's a lot of potential in this MOC.

so that's my part, basically :D


Hey, Ruud! What happened to the rules? "Use appropriate language (no problem there) and DON'T BE MEAN, RUDE, OR INSULTING!"

I don't know about other folks here, but I think that saying you "hate" people's MOCs (or parts of them), is rude AND insulting! I won't enter any more contests if you are going to be a judge, unless you can be respectful.
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| May 11, 2009, 9:13 am
Quoting Todd Wilder

Hey, Ruud! What happened to the rules? "Use appropriate language (no problem there) and DON'T BE MEAN, RUDE, OR INSULTING!"

I don't know about other folks here, but I think that saying you "hate" people's MOCs (or parts of them), is rude AND insulting! I won't enter any more contests if you are going to be a judge, unless you can be respectful.


Hey Todd. English isn't everyone's first language so a little slack might be required. Personally I much prefer honest reviews to the usual 'cool 10/10' for everything, it means I know what to improve on! Nice MOC btw and congrats on 2nd place!

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| May 11, 2009, 1:03 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Todd Wilder

Hey, Ruud! What happened to the rules? "Use appropriate language (no problem there) and DON'T BE MEAN, RUDE, OR INSULTING!"

I don't know about other folks here, but I think that saying you "hate" people's MOCs (or parts of them), is rude AND insulting! I won't enter any more contests if you are going to be a judge, unless you can be respectful.

Okay, don't get offended. Maybe he could have worded it a tad differently, but he was judging and his opinion was what counted. In my opinion, his judging was very sound no matter how he said it.

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| May 12, 2009, 10:42 am
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One more thing, who is 2nd place? Ruud voted Todd, and Ape voted myself. Is there gonna be a tie breaker or something? PLEASE don't think that I am trying to weasel myself into second place, I am just trying to get this straight. This is actually the first contest I have ever done with more than one judge.
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| May 12, 2009, 1:39 pm
Quoting Tterbo Magnesium
One more thing, who is 2nd place? Ruud voted Todd, and Ape voted myself. Is there gonna be a tie breaker or something? PLEASE don't think that I am trying to weasel myself into second place, I am just trying to get this straight. This is actually the first contest I have ever done with more than one judge.


Maybe arrange a third judge, who would just decide between the 2 second place options?- Patrick L, as the winner, would be good.
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| May 12, 2009, 2:10 pm
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Quoting Ape Fight

Maybe arrange a third judge, who would just decide between the 2 second place options?- Patrick L, as the winner, would be good.

That's a good idea, I'll ask him.
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| May 12, 2009, 11:24 pm
Quoting Tterbo Magnesium

Ok, first thank you for the first place.
Iīve take a look to your Pickupīs.
Mmh,i think the blue one from Todd has a fantastic style and colour. And Tterboīs front is awesome.So i asked my wife,which one she like more.Her answer - second place for Todd and second place for Tterbo. I decide so ,too.These two are perfect pimped trucks.I think if you ask other members the decide so,too.We should create a trophy and you two can add it to your trucks.
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| May 14, 2009, 2:06 pm
Thanks, everyone!
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| May 14, 2009, 2:26 pm
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Quoting Patrick L.
Ok, first thank you for the first place.
Iīve take a look to your Pickupīs.
Mmh,i think the blue one from Todd has a fantastic style and colour. And Tterboīs front is awesome.So i asked my wife,which one she like more.Her answer - second place for Todd and second place for Tterbo. I decide so ,too.These two are perfect pimped trucks.I think if you ask other members the decide so,too.We should create a trophy and you two can add it to your trucks.

Alright then, I'll pick another judge if you think it is a tie, because we can't really have two second places. Any suggestions for another judge anyone?
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| May 15, 2009, 3:32 pm
 Group admin 
Hey Matthew Harned, would you, as moderator, please end the ongoing tie between Todd Wilder and myself? Please post your pick in this chat string.
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| May 20, 2009, 2:03 pm
Just a question: Is all of this judging stuff for an upcoming contest?

-Dax
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| May 20, 2009, 9:58 pm
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Quoting Dax Olesa
Just a question: Is all of this judging stuff for an upcoming contest?

-Dax



Nope. The first contest was too close for 2 judges to manage, so Tterbo called me in to break the tie for 2nd place.
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| May 20, 2009, 10:39 pm
 Group moderator 
Okay. Here ya go--Tterbo wins. Below is the (way too long) breakdown:


Todd Wilder's blue pickup truck: Sweet.

+The shape. I like the round theme, like one of the other judges did. It makes the truck look fast.
-The cab. I know it is a ten wide, but an interior would have boosted the appeal. Besides, it is too tall, or too narrow, or too short front to back...can't tell which.
+The details. At least some of them. The bumper is cool, the hood scoop is nice. The taillights are better than Tterbo's too, but pretty simple nevertheless.
-The front. The grille is too small, in my opinion. The lights might have been a bit better, too, although I don't know just how. (Hey, it ain't my job to fix the problems, just to ridicule you two for them! LOL)
+The photos and presentation. Enough said.

Consensus--Slick, NASCAR-style, but not quite radical. In real life this would not attract as much attention as, say, a flying saucer landing in the middle of the road.


Tterbo's Chevy Tuner Truck: Radical. (There's your answer, guys.)

+The shape. It just oozes the custom look. I like the cover over the bed, and especially the down-tilted roof. The hefty front gives it a powerful impression, like a semi, but the sloped roof keeps it slick rather than blocky.
-The fin. WAY to high. It would only be functional if it only came up equal with the roof.
-The photos are grainy. But the presentation suited the truck--not as well as Wilder's outdoor shots though.
-Is it just me, or does this remind you of another tuner truck? Nothing wrong with a little idea-borrowing, but it wasn't so original...http://mocpages.com/moc.php/65261
+The details. This here is what makes this officially RADICAL. (Not including the taillights.) The interior. The opening doors and hood. The engine. The headlights. That crazy front bumper. The yellow Chevrolet symbol. Get the point?

Consensus--Radical. I'd rather drive this than a flying saucer!


I rest my case.
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| May 20, 2009, 11:17 pm
 Group admin 
Thank you Matthew, good job on the very intricate judging job. And great job on your truck Todd, it was almost a complete tie, we had to resort to two extra judges to break it, very well done.
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| May 21, 2009, 12:10 am
Quoting Tterbo Magnesium
Thank you Matthew, good job on the very intricate judging job. And great job on your truck Todd, it was almost a complete tie, we had to resort to two extra judges to break it, very well done.


Well done M.H, very well judged (always use an odd no. of judges!). I agree with the vote for Tterbo's truck- congrats on second! Looking forward to the next contest- this was one of the best on the vehicle groups : )

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| May 21, 2009, 4:08 am
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